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this video is of me riding highway 152 in southern new mexico right around 7:48-7:50 on the right side is my close call. look close its hard to see.:t1202:
 

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looks like you lost traction.... gotta wear some gear too man... it really hurts hitting the pavement at 60...
 

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nope traction was good. they had just chipped and tarred the road. keep looking.
 

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its really quick and you have to look hard.
 

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A small herd of deer running up the draw. Wow!! that could have been bad.
 

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Sorry man, couldn't make it past a minute. No gloves, no jacket....makes my skin crawl.
 

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good eyes mark, and sorry jaw its nearly impossible to ride with full gear down here, its just too hot. deserts are like that. however i do ride with gear whenever possible.
 

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Scrapper, man, I just gotta bawl you out youngster.....WOULD you PLEASE think a little? You can try to out see a deer. sure. but I'm telling you, they just SUDDENLY appear. I had exactly two seconds to decelerate, maneuver or look for a route out..and make a command decision all at once. You simply are too slow to 'see' them to do anything about it. After your impact, its up to your gear to save your arse.... t shirt, jeans sneakers... tatoos....lol seriously think about this.
that loose rock that you hit could have been it for ya.... You would have most likely been caught in a high speed, high side crash..... after you over corrected in that scenario. Wear your gear. I see where you said that its too hot where you live. So.?... get a good flowing / venting helmet. Spend some dough on one. 300 k? then get a 600 wt nylon jacket w/ pads in the shoulders, elbows, backside.... GOOD GloVes... with knuckle busters on top. get some meshtex pants from Firstgear. They offer excellent air flow,while having hip and hard knee pads installed. Plus, they have a heat shield sewn at the inside calf sections.... spend 200 bucks and get them. You will be comfortable. the jacket needs to have LOTS of venting... you can wear it without the liner....and be ok better.

K. get some gear kid and ride safe. your kids will thank you later.

-C
 

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I had to stop watching at 3.50.... you obviously are crusing in this video.... way faster than is safe for your KLR and road conditions. You crossed a cattle guard, and thats when I quit watching. man. you are in open range country?.!!!!????? and you are riding like that?... man You need to get smart fast before you get it. blind corner, bunch of 1500 lb cows in the middle of your path... BAM ... lights out scrapper.

Look, I don't mean to make you feel bad, but you are kind of asking for trouble if you don't slow it up and ride smarter than this. KLR's aren't streetbikes. You will be needing Ion shields to help protect you man.... not firstgear...
 

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I've ridden some pretty hot rides and I'd rather sweat than die or have gravel scraped out of my flesh with a wire brush.

I have a mesh jacket cost me about $40. It ain't the same protection as my leather, but shit man...OK, I'm a writer so I need my hands, but imagine your palms hitting asphalt at 50 mph.

No one is trying to preach...we look out for each other here. I wasn't always smart and have made far stupider decisions with my life in the past than riding without gear - I got lucky. I don't take those kind of chances any more and if it's too hot to wear gear, it's too hot to ride.

Munter just lived it brother. Go look at the pics of his gear and helmet.
 

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+ 1 on the safety considerations addressed.

Chose not to view the video entirely; too-fast riding on "Two-Lane Blacktop" (Warren Oates starred in a movie so-named) not particularly of compelling interest (just ME), and . . . couldn't stand the "music" soundtrack.

As to the latter--COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT? Theft of "INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY?" Give it back, regardless. Don't think publication of the lyrics would be tolerated (if I understand the neo-unintelligible utterings correctly); don't appreciate that school of "music," nor rap either, myself.

No accounting for taste, I know, but--more serious, perhaps, is liability vulnerability to this website of harboring improper use of copyrighted material, such as it is.

And . . . a closer examination of the true purpose and point of the video might be useful.

Echo from the playground at recess: "Are you braggin' or complainin'?"

Regardless, Scrapper, we want you as a healthy and whole valued member of the forum; we're NOT just a bunch of ol' meanies who don't want you to have any fun.
 

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I love the guys on this forum. So since hand skin is the ONLY skin that cannot be replaced,PLEASE WEAR GLOVES.

Thanks brother.
 

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thanks guys. i get it, i have the gear and i wear it whenever possible. but untill you ride in 115 degree in the shade weather where you hit spots in the road so hot you cant breathe, ill continue to argue this point. and its like that here 3/4 of the year. sorry but no one that i have ever seen here rides with gear full time. and i know it looks like im going too fast in the video but that was my 3rd time up there that week and second run of the day. also i only went faster than 35 in one spot. the straight campground area. i appreciate everyones concerns and tips but untill you experience these riding conditions you wont really get it.
 

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I will be more than happy to mail you a brand new pair of "hot summer" riding gloves for free. I have ridden for alot of years...I do not want your hands to look/function like mine...so don't tell me you get it....because CLEARLY you do not! But hey, I wasn't ready to listen to this ATGATT sh£* when I was young and immortal.. Guess your not interested in my sermon about earplugs either ..that's okay...it is just because I have a constant annoying ringing in my ears daily...but hey no big d.
 

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guys im not stupid, perhaps unsafe at times but who isnt. im not bullet proof and immortal because im you ok i have 2 bulged discs in my back right now that has me walking with a cane. been dealing with it now for 6 yrs. i ride because i enjoy it. and weather doesnt stop me no matter how i have to adapt to it. however im glad you all have my best interests in mind. thats why i posted the video in the first place. to let people know that it can come out of nowhere if you arent safe and paying attention. and if by safety bashing me helps someone else realize they need more protection then i welcome it.
 

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Yeh I walk with a cane too. The shock corded fold up ones work great fitting in luggage.No one bashing you ....but you just don't get it dude..I don't want ya to end up in my shape @ 58 cause of a [email protected] scrapes every f*>^€*£ piece of your handskin off cause it's too f'en hot to wear gloves!!?.?GIVE ME A BREAK.
 

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During my years in the Army, I wore a lot of really hot gear and operated in a lot of extremely hot environments. Actually, the words "really" and "extreme" don't do either justice.

Being in the heat wearing hot clothing can be done and the more you do it, the more you get used to it. Drink lots and lots of water and take frequent breaks. Like they say, "Nothing is forgotten faster than discomfort."

Unless you're hungover, have some kind of medical factors or have previously suffered some kind of heat injury, the body is very efficient at keeping itself cool as long as you stay hydrated. Good time to mention a Camelback.

I will admit, though, I miss out on a lot of riding hours and miles in the Summer months of June, July and August when it's simply too hot to ride to work. I have to wear a polyester uniform to work. I can't just put it on when I get there. If I were to wear all my gear on that 40-minute ride, my uniform would be completely soaked with sweat by the time I got there.

So, kind of sucks, especially when gas prices are going up, but when it gets that hot, I ditch the KLR and drive the Toyota to work. I will not make that ride unless I'm wearing full gear.

And, the temps can climb as high as they want, but I really don't think it's ever "too hot for gloves." Actually, this thread inspired me to upgrade my gloves from the "okay" leather ones I've been wearing to a better pair with more abrasion resistance and some padding. I actually found a pretty nice pair with these features for not much more than I paid for the standard leather ones I've been using.
 

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Eric,
I love ya. You nailed it.how did I forget to mention H2O???? Yes on these sometimes godawfell rides when I wanted to take it all off....I sucked on my CAMELBACK with the added lemon-lime electrolyte tab.so sometimes I stripped down to just my long sleeve Kevlar shirt. But always kept the protective pants,helmet,gloves. Those of you who knew me just a year ago know that this basic gear SAVED MY LIFE..which simply means I can still ride and still preach to youngsters who don't know what's good for them.( I WAS THEM!!)



Hugs,
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if you look at the link i posted before it shows my gear i ride with. and liquid is also somewhat of a problem when its 110 degree's. tea just doesn't cut it when its hot but i do carry water with me. i wasn't wearing gear in the video but i do wear it. and im glad we get to talk about safety stuff like this. that's the reason i posted this to begin with and it already had an effect for one rider here so mission accomplished there. i respect everyone who posted here and i take everything said seriously. i hope everyone who reads this does too. when i get some jingle in my pocket i'm going to look at whats out there for safety gear that allows comfort in this heat. but untill then its leather and heat stroke. thanks everyone.
 

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Hot weather tips:

Bandana
Shirt

Soak in cold water.

I always pound water. Ask anyone I ride with. Gallons of it.

Mesh gear is a compromise, but it's something. Gloves, yeah, no excuse for that.

I hear you man. I HATE being hot. I skip armored pants sometimes which is dumb cause I've seen the chunk a center divider marker took out of a dude KNEEPAD. He would've been crippled. But I will never, ever ride without some kind of armored jacket, full face, good gloves, good boots. Aerostich makes a silk scarf. I think it's fifteen bucks. Aside from WWII fighter pilot props you soak that thing in water and it is a godsend. The ****ed part is, you don't know when it is going to happen. I play guitar and I write and I can't have my hands ****ed up. And I don't like pain. Being hot sucks. Being skinned sucks more.

I appreciate that you usually wear gear, but that's like saying I usually wear a condom. It only takes once.
 
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