The switch is already junky as is...
I used a stainless steel ring and it's now new and improved. Same split rings I use to build fishing lures.
The switch is already junky as is...I was thinking about that. I worried that it might be a little janky, but probably would be fine.
I was thinking about that. I worried that it might be a little janky, but probably would be fine.
That's definitely true. I knew going in that there was some corner cutting. But decided to pick one up because between the $1000 off promo and the military discount, it was $1200 off an already inexpensive bike.These bikes are janky from the Showroom floor. Ive owned several bikes. Still own several. And ive worked on a ton. These bikes are the rattle trap of the bike world. Supposedly they are reliable. Idk this is my first. Maybe they are Kind of like the old Festiva, a noisy poorly fitted machine that somehow just works. Idk. But of all the bikes I've been on, the klr makes me think "made in China by 11 year olds" more than any other bike.
I like my klr so far. But 2 seconds on an Africa Twin, tenere, or even a 40 year old gs650, Victory, (known for being junk) or my 70s Honda scrambler and the klr just screams cheap.
Happens all the time, don't sweat it. Try to stay loose when riding. Anytime you tense up weird things happen.I'm beginning to think I was riding with my big foot on the lever and just didn't realize it
Also a lot of my xxxx doesn't work threads too. I don't doubt its reliability but id never heard of one till I bought one. Meanwhile when buying vtx I saw MANY with over 100k miles. Lol.I have a buddy who keeps telling me how reliable they are and how he is on #6 through the years and has had no problems with any of them. But it does beg the question a little about why he is on #6 if they last so long?![]()
I have 4 Honda (dads old 93 trx300, his old 69 350 scrambler, 04 vtx, 2 suzuki....the kids 91 lt160, and a ds 185, many yamaha.. 2015 grizzly, 16 kodiak, 02 raptor, 85 moto 4 (first year of 4 wheels...no suspension) 21 viking, 06 R6, 2 kaw...a Tecate 250 and the KLr... some im forgetting in my junk piles no doubt and the few ive sold or totaled .... plus I work on them every day for others.....the klr is sub par built for a Japanese bike PURELY based on build material and fit/ finish. My 85 moto4 doesn't vibrate and rattle like my 23 klr. My Raptor is a big rattling single cylinder with about a billion miles and rattles less. I put 20k miles on an R1 that vibrated so bad at high rpm it would blur your vision and numb your ass and it never rattled. The klr is more CF MOTO/benche/Kazuma/ in build than ANY Japanese machine ive seen or owned. Im sure some were poorly made but ive not owned them. Again only speaking about my gen 3Yes they are inexpensive and lack features that more expensive bikes have.......but they have average Japanese build quality IME which is to say 1000 x better than any bike actually made in China by 11 year olds!.....I could be wrong, my latest KLR is only my 47th motorcycle...
To the OP; I'm guessing that maybe you're riding the rear brake without noticing
Dave
While I don't agree with this statement entirely, I can say that the build quality between the original Gen1 bikes and the Gen3 bike is rather grotesque. The Gen1 bikes being of superior quality.The klr is more CF MOTO/benche/Kazuma/ in build than ANY Japanese machine ive seen or owned
I concur.but they(KLR) have average Japanese build quality IME
Well said.putting aside the concept that Gen3's aren't built to the same quality as earlier KLR's, I'd suggest reading this when it comes to questioning the reliability and longevity of a stock KLR (only mods were the EM "doo" and a Thermobob). I'll opine that there aren't very many bikes that have the potential longevity of a well maintained KLR and none of them that do are singles;
I don't have the energy to get into a protracted debate so just a couple of points;Also a lot of my xxxx doesn't work threads too. I don't doubt its reliability but id never heard of one till I bought one. Meanwhile when buying vtx I saw MANY with over 100k miles. Lol.
Then you have the "they are super awesome and never need anything" folks telling you buy a new 7500 dollar bike and then take the side cover off and replace bad chain tensioners...fix the cooling system with a new thermobob (I did btw) take off the foot pegs, change the drain plug.....readjust your steering head.... but a better windshield... and seat
But they need nothing... ever. Lol
I'm a yamaha man btw
I have 4 Honda (dads old 93 trx300, his old 69 350 scrambler, 04 vtx, 2 suzuki....the kids 91 lt160, and a ds 185, many yamaha.. 2015 grizzly, 16 kodiak, 02 raptor, 85 moto 4 (first year of 4 wheels...no suspension) 21 viking, 06 R6, 2 kaw...a Tecate 250 and the KLr... some im forgetting in my junk piles no doubt and the few ive sold or totaled .... plus I work on them every day for others.....the klr is sub par built for a Japanese bike PURELY based on build material and fit/ finish. My 85 moto4 doesn't vibrate and rattle like my 23 klr. My Raptor is a big rattling single cylinder with about a billion miles and rattles less. I put 20k miles on an R1 that vibrated so bad at high rpm it would blur your vision and numb your ass and it never rattled. The klr is more CF MOTO/benche/Kazuma/ in build than ANY Japanese machine ive seen or owned. Im sure some were poorly made but ive not owned them. Again only speaking about my gen 3
Not saying the were all great either. Some had quirks for sure. Simply speaking from rattles/paint falling off/misrouted cables/ cable clips missing/....Rattles/vibrations. My banshee took about 100 bucks in parts for every 10 gallon of gas.
And the rattles.....
BIL rides a 16 grizzly and an 0something vtwin brute force . Was never really impressed with its build quality either. Ive rode probably 25 Ninja/Vulcan and they were all fine machines so I don't think it's across the kaw lineup.
As far as reliability/mechanical its far better than the Chinese machines ive seen. No doubt about that. Ive seen MANY fail when pretty much brand new. Mostly carb and wiring issues. Then getting parts is pretty impossible. Lol. Build quality doesn't always mean anything for reliability either. I get a lot of well built subaru that are just junk mechanically IMO. BMW/ AUDI VW too
Ive also worked alongside the engineers from Japan (toyoda being one) and Germany off and on for 20 years....the things they focus on are almost more fit/ finish than any other thing. Other countries not so much. If the engineers from toyoda that ive worked with had as many quality complaints that ive seen on here in my 2 months of ownership....I would not be surprised to hear they hara kiri-ed themselves. They are pretty hardcore. Lol
I'm satisfied with my new KLR. Don't get me wrong. But it feels very much chinese/Korea instead of Japan from my experience of working on a million cars and several bike/quad
putting aside the concept that Gen3's aren't built to the same quality as earlier KLR's, I'd suggest reading this when it comes to questioning the reliability and longevity of a stock KLR (only mods were the EM "doo" and a Thermobob). I'll opine that there aren't very many bikes that have the potential longevity of a well maintained KLR and none of them that do are singles;
Again, after 48 years of riding, 47 motorcycles and 30 years of racing offroad, in MY experience the KLR's are pretty middle of the road for Japanese build quality which is better than bikes built almost anywhere else. I will say that I think Honda has better "fit and finish" in a general view compared to the other Japanese bikes..
Yes they are inexpensive and lack features that more expensive bikes have.......but they have average Japanese build quality IME which is to say 1000 x better than any bike actually made in China by 11 year olds!.....I could be wrong, my latest KLR is only my 47th motorcycle...
To the OP; I'm guessing that maybe you're riding the rear brake without noticing
That's my deduction as well, as it also explains a couple of experiences while riding. It's a wonder I can feel anything in my riding boots, but I'd rather have unbroken feet and ankles and learn to ride better.
Dave
Thank for the kind words.Happens all the time, don't sweat it. Try to stay loose when riding. Anytime you tense up weird things happen.
Best wishes and remember ride hard ride often for life is short.
That’s a great quote. “Thread drift” is very common on here, but in the mix of all that’s said, one usually gets their issues addressed. It just comes with the territory😉😎Comparison is the thief of joy." - Teddy Roosevelt.
That’s a great quote. “Thread drift” is very common on here, but in the mix of all that’s said, one usually gets their issues addressed. It just comes with the territory😉😎
That’s a great quote. “Thread drift” is very common on here, but in the mix of all that’s said, one usually gets their issues addressed. It just comes with the territory😉😎
I've lurked in enough forums to see that stuff happen, which is why I don't contribute too much. I try not to say anything unless I have something to add - making up for all the yapping I did as a younger man. I don't mind thread drift, its a natural part of conversation and usually a welcome one, but when it comes out of left field and for no apparent good reason, it just boggles me.Not just drifts on here. Anywhere. Even in person. Lol
I did put an actual laser thermo measured temp though to make up for my drifting. I try to be helpful. Lol
But even so the apparent lack of Proper dealer set-up that I've been reading on these pages nowadays seems to be totally appalling.
To all yous guys saying the KLR is cheap and crappy, why'd you buy one?