First side is EASY
Lube?
Small bites with the spoons, 2” at a time.
Lube?
Small bites with the spoons, 2” at a time.
Can not get first side of 606s on rear wheel.
Well i know i can replace tubes and set the beads etc. But i can't get the first side of a new 606 on the rim. I think if i had a big curved tire tool but i do not. IDEAS???I could take it to dealer but am stubborn.
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Be sure the side that is away from your spoons in down in the center of the rim, giving you the most slack. If the opposite side is not “in the groove”, the tire won’t go on. Then, like said above, take small bites. If you don’t have three spoons it’s allot harder. Watch a few YouTube instructional videos and you’ll get it. Took me a while on my first one😉
With a straight tire iron you are pushing both beads at once. The send bead will be easy with my bead buddy.
Trying to keep it in that low spot is hard but i do understand that. Looking for silicone spray lube to make it slicker.Be sure the side that is away from your spoons in down in the center of the rim, giving you the most slack. If the opposite side is not “in the groove”, the tire won’t go on. Then, like said above, take small bites. If you don’t have three spoons it’s allot harder. Watch a few YouTube instructional videos and you’ll get it. Took me a while on my first one😉
Put the wheel on the ground and put both knees on the tire that will keep it off the bead.
Ever since I switched from soap/water to silicone spray, I can usually get first side on with no tools at all. Remember to keep rotor side of the rim up. Once you get to seating second side, you may be putting some downward force that may do some damage to it. Get it greasy to say the least
Got it. No tube. Extra slick helped it get 3/4 of way. Then i stood tire up and came in with tool from backsidede just to create a gap on the correct side and iused tool on correct side an it just went on smooth after 3 hour wrestling match.
Except no way to get tube on after. Maybe a fishing tool?
The "zip tie" method works really well for me. Google it.
Use the tools your bringing with you. I run Tusk D-sports and they have such stiff sidewalls. As said above using the spoke nipple channel is key. Yes trying to get tube valve stem in the hole after one side is mounted is a challenge. I use motion pro bead breaker (trail side version) and one extra spoon (gives you 3 spoons). Doing the second side I use the bead breaker to force the 1st side into the channel as I move around the tire at least I try to.
You can get the tube in with one bead over the rim; that's how I always do it.Except no way to get tube on after. Maybe a fishing tool?
Dave
I think i needed to air tube to seat that one bead. I have made a mess of this simple job i did many times when i was 16. Of course those were dirt bike tires not dot approved etc.
I have pneumatic and digital balancing machines and install tires quite often. From big tractor tires by hand down to lawn mower and wheel barrel lol. I've never seen anyone install a tube any other way. Other than pinching some lawn mower tubes ive never had any issue.You can get the tube in with one bead over the rim; that's how I always do it.
Dave
If your struggling with the first bead then your probably not in the drop center. Some vehicles have to go on from one side and folks can't the first bead on for that reason. Either way if the first bead is tough then the last one is going to be near impossible.
It won't work unless it's in the drop center/ groove. Even my machine will tear the bead if it's not. First set I installed when I got machines was a set of high end Michelin on my wife's Toyota....I tore a bead that way. I bought another one and used that one for a spare. It's still under the vehicle 200k miles later. The shorter the profile and stiffer the worse they are.
A warm tire is 10x easier to get on the wheel. A cold tire is considerably easier to seat the bead on after its on. But with tube that's moot
Murphy oil is great tire lube if you have it. Even at my shop we use the Murphy tire lube which is still the same ingredients. A 5 gallon bucket will last about 10k years installing 2-3 sets of tires a week. Lol.
Lay the tire in the sun for a couple of hours, before you start mounting it. If it is raining, use a heat gun or blow dryer to warm the tire. The rubber will soften and stretch easier with a little warmth. Don't over do it with the heat gun.
The zip ties method mentioned above fascinated me. It would seem doable even with a tube. You would need a stem “fishing tool”. I think one time I used a piece of string, maybe in a cap with a hole or looped in an old Schrader valve!
Except no way to get tube on after. Maybe a fishing tool?
I talcum powder the tubes in a 'shaker bag'. Put the inner tube fully into the half mounted tire with the valve ALIGNED with the valve hole. Push the Aligned valve into the tire LAST. Stand the tire vertically (valve at top) and use long nosed plier from under the MOUNTED tire bead to grab & insert the valve down thru the hole. Put a nut on it loosely.You can get the tube in with one bead over the rim; that's how I always do it.
Dave
Add a little air to straighten the tube inside the tire. Let the air mostly back out.
Mount the second tire bead starting Opposite the valve. The last 3 inches at the valve, push the valve mostly into the tire before spooning that bit over.
One CAN NOT dis-mount nor install a tire with either bead seated onto the rim. Both beads need to be able to slip into the middle.I think i needed to air tube to seat that one bead.
Did I mention Baja no pinch tool yet??
Thank you sir.I talcum powder the tubes in a 'shaker bag'. Put the inner tube fully into the half mounted tire with the valve ALIGNED with the valve hole. Push the Aligned valve into the tire LAST. Stand the tire vertically (valve at top) and use long nosed plier from under the MOUNTED tire bead to grab & insert the valve down thru the hole. Put a nut on it loosely.
Add a little air to straighten the tube inside the tire. Let the air mostly back out.
Mount the second tire bead starting Opposite the valve. The last 3 inches at the valve, push the valve mostly into the tire before spooning that bit over.
One CAN NOT dis-mount nor install a tire with either bead seated onto the rim. Both beads need to be able to slip into the middle.
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