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It was my own fault. I was running too low of pressure in my Pirelli Mt 21s without bead locks. They are on order but haven't gotten here yet. No exscuse though, I know better.
I was cruising at about 65 mph when the valvestem pulled out and let ALL the air out in a hurry. Instantly I was in a skid hard right. Even with full lock counter steering I was going into the ditch. As I left the pavement the rear swapped directions and I lowsided hard on my left side. The bike and I slid another 50 to 60 feet before stopping. It took a couple of minutes to gather my scattered wits!!
The Teknic riding gear paid for itself today as did the Alpinstar Scout boots. The coat's built in elbow and shoulder pads absorbed much of the impact as did the knee and leg padding of the Teknic pants. My left leg and boot were under the bike on impact but the boot saved my leg and ankle. Neither the pants or coat show much damage and my helmet was untouched.
The SW Motec crash bars and rear pannier mounts did a wonderful job of protecting the bike. The only damage I can see tonight seems limited to the roadrash on the leftside crash bar and the highway peg is bent 180 degrees around the bar. Nothing else seems damaged.
I also got off very lucky. My left elbow and shoulder are achey and my neck seems stiff, but that is about it. Tomorrow may be another matter,but at this point the old aircraft adage comes to mind.....Any landing you can walk away from is a good one!
Remember Boys and Girls.....WEAR THE GEAR. Without the proper gear this would have had a FAR worse outcome.
As is I got a buddy to come with a trailer and pick me and the KLER up. I spent the rest of the evening till now helping cut up a moose with him and his family, rather than taking an ambulance ride to the hospital. :)
Regards....justjeff
 

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Glad you're OK, man. Glad you were geared up. Kind of amazing the bike made it through as well as it did, too....
 

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It's good to hear that things worked out. I have a good jacket but still need the pants (befor the years up I hope).

I had a front tire on a 750 stree bike go flat on a LA freeway years ago. It was a good thing the lane next to me was free, because I used two lanes trying to keep the bike upright until the steel rim hit the concrete.
 

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Glad you are ok. I've punctured the rear tire on my KLR at speed on a gravel road and things do get busy in a hurry....

I'm looking at one of these to have along when you want to change tire pressure for conditions:

http://www.bestrestproducts.com/c-137-cyclepump-adventure-combo-wgauge.aspx
Thanks for the link Slowpoke, that looks like a cool product! I just came in from fixing the KLER in the garage. Other than the previously mentioned damage I found the left factory hand guard was broken too. Very minor damage considering. I think what reduced the carnage the most was that the bike and me both slid rather than tumbling. I stopped there on my way home tonight and from where I left the pavement and went down to stopping was 75 feet.
Thank you all for your concern and your very kind words!!
Regards....justjeff
 

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Scary stuff.
I'm glad that you were able to walk away from that spill.

The riding gear can really save you from a lot of pain and suffering. I've gone down at that speed and slid a great distance like you did, but my lower half was only wearing Jeans. My GirlFriend at the time spent a few hours picking bits of asphalt out of my thigh and butt-cheek. It was not fun.

Good reason to remind our selves to check that tire pressure and to air up right away after riding off pavement.
 

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Yikes. Thanks for posting.

It was my own fault. I was running too low of pressure in my Pirelli Mt 21s without bead locks. They are on order but haven't gotten here yet. No exscuse though, I know better.
I was cruising at about 65 mph when the valvestem pulled out and let ALL the air out in a hurry. Instantly I was in a skid hard right. Even with full lock counter steering I was going into the ditch. As I left the pavement the rear swapped directions and I lowsided hard on my left side. The bike and I slid another 50 to 60 feet before stopping. It took a couple of minutes to gather my scattered wits!!
The Teknic riding gear paid for itself today as did the Alpinstar Scout boots. The coat's built in elbow and shoulder pads absorbed much of the impact as did the knee and leg padding of the Teknic pants. My left leg and boot were under the bike on impact but the boot saved my leg and ankle. Neither the pants or coat show much damage and my helmet was untouched.
The SW Motec crash bars and rear pannier mounts did a wonderful job of protecting the bike. The only damage I can see tonight seems limited to the roadrash on the leftside crash bar and the highway peg is bent 180 degrees around the bar. Nothing else seems damaged.
I also got off very lucky. My left elbow and shoulder are achey and my neck seems stiff, but that is about it. Tomorrow may be another matter,but at this point the old aircraft adage comes to mind.....Any landing you can walk away from is a good one!
Remember Boys and Girls.....WEAR THE GEAR. Without the proper gear this would have had a FAR worse outcome.
As is I got a buddy to come with a trailer and pick me and the KLER up. I spent the rest of the evening till now helping cut up a moose with him and his family, rather than taking an ambulance ride to the hospital. :)
Regards....justjeff
 

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Thanks for sharing-
This newbie rider is trying to figure things out, and you've inadvertantly answered a bunch of questions!

I've been looking at crashbars, see the PD one, the Motec one, and was wondering if the Motec one was large enough to offer real protection in a lay-down like this. I guess it does! Was the bike sliding on the crashbars - and handlebar-end? Do they sell handlebar ends built to take impacts like this? (I know BMX bicycles offer products like that)

Also, boots-
I'm going to take an 18 hour course to get myself licensed, and one of the pieces of required gear is "over the ankle boots" and, I was wondering about why that particular requirement...
...then while searching for motorcycle-specific boots on Amazon to try to learn about them, I found these things cost nearly $200, and come in enough varieties that I wouldn't want to buy sight-unseen - particularly not having enough experience to know what features I'm really looking for.
Your post highlights this as a safety need - but still, I wouldn't know what to look for in a boot. Any thoughts?
 

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Glad you're all right JusJeff!!! That is a scary scenario. Glad you were geared up and ready for just about anything! Hope the KLR is still strong!
 

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I have owned MC specific boots. Nowadays I ride in Redwings. MC specific boots have some advantages (water proof - so are my RWs though, little pad where the shifter hits, ergonomics).

Basically, you want a heavy boot that will NOT come off in a crash and that will offer ankle support and padding. You can spend $100 or $800.


Thanks for sharing-
This newbie rider is trying to figure things out, and you've inadvertantly answered a bunch of questions!

I've been looking at crashbars, see the PD one, the Motec one, and was wondering if the Motec one was large enough to offer real protection in a lay-down like this. I guess it does! Was the bike sliding on the crashbars - and handlebar-end? Do they sell handlebar ends built to take impacts like this? (I know BMX bicycles offer products like that)

Also, boots-
I'm going to take an 18 hour course to get myself licensed, and one of the pieces of required gear is "over the ankle boots" and, I was wondering about why that particular requirement...
...then while searching for motorcycle-specific boots on Amazon to try to learn about them, I found these things cost nearly $200, and come in enough varieties that I wouldn't want to buy sight-unseen - particularly not having enough experience to know what features I'm really looking for.
Your post highlights this as a safety need - but still, I wouldn't know what to look for in a boot. Any thoughts?
 

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Glad you're o.k., justjeff!

Yanked valve stem from front tube (probably a result of low air pressure through negligence) of my Continental Trail Attack; flat noticable only at low speeds; ran 15 miles on pavement to shop for replacement tube.

Dang tire pretty much runs flat; no tendency to come off rim, and squirrely only at low speeds, as mentioned.

Nevertheless, I had my good ol' Teknic jacket, etc., on, anyway!
 

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Thanks for sharing-
This newbie rider is trying to figure things out, and you've inadvertantly answered a bunch of questions!

I've been looking at crashbars, see the PD one, the Motec one, and was wondering if the Motec one was large enough to offer real protection in a lay-down like this. I guess it does! Was the bike sliding on the crashbars - and handlebar-end? Do they sell handlebar ends built to take impacts like this? (I know BMX bicycles offer products like that)

Also, boots-
I'm going to take an 18 hour course to get myself licensed, and one of the pieces of required gear is "over the ankle boots" and, I was wondering about why that particular requirement...
...then while searching for motorcycle-specific boots on Amazon to try to learn about them, I found these things cost nearly $200, and come in enough varieties that I wouldn't want to buy sight-unseen - particularly not having enough experience to know what features I'm really looking for.
Your post highlights this as a safety need - but still, I wouldn't know what to look for in a boot. Any thoughts?
The Alpinestar Scout boots I bought are a good choice. Comfortable to ride and walk in, waterproof and tall enough to cover the shin. They are as tall as Motocross boots but not as stiff. Shin protection is a good idea especially for offroad. I once caught a treestump hidden in tall grass. Got it right in the shin. No fun to kickstart a XR500 with a nearly broken leg.
I also didn't want to buy the boots "sight unseen". I phoned around to bike shops till I found one which had the Scouts in stock. I went there and tried on the size I would have ordered and it was too small. Good thing they weren't bought over the net. Big a$$ pain then. The shop's price was right in line with the net price too!
As for handle bar protection I now have BarkBusters. They protect the levers and throttle but the bars can still be bent.
I looked at a bunch of bars before buying the SW motec ones. GiVi, Happytrails, HepcoBecker.... I think the Motec Bars are the strongest, but they are not the cheepest.
Regards....justjeff
 

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Glad you're o.k., justjeff!

Yanked valve stem from front tube (probably a result of low air pressure through negligence) of my Continental Trail Attack; flat noticable only at low speeds; ran 15 miles on pavement to shop for replacement tube.

Dang tire pretty much runs flat; no tendency to come off rim, and squirrely only at low speeds, as mentioned.

Nevertheless, I had my good ol' Teknic jacket, etc., on, anyway!
Thanks Damocles!
That laydown happened back in September....here's the pic,Im OOOOOKkkkk now! Though there is not a car in sight in the pic, there were several in the opposing lane when I crashed!!
 

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Thanks Tiptoes!
Good thing it happened in September, If it happened today it would be two months before they found me. There is 4 feet of snow in that ditch right now!
Regards....justthawingjeff
 

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The Alpinestar Scout boots I bought are a good choice. Comfortable to ride and walk in, waterproof and tall enough to cover the shin. They are as tall as Motocross boots but not as stiff. Shin protection is a good idea especially for offroad. I once caught a treestump hidden in tall grass. Got it right in the shin. No fun to kickstart a XR500 with a nearly broken leg.
I also didn't want to buy the boots "sight unseen". I phoned around to bike shops till I found one which had the Scouts in stock. I went there and tried on the size I would have ordered and it was too small. Good thing they weren't bought over the net. Big a$$ pain then. The shop's price was right in line with the net price too!
As for handle bar protection I now have BarkBusters. They protect the levers and throttle but the bars can still be bent.
I looked at a bunch of bars before buying the SW motec ones. GiVi, Happytrails, HepcoBecker.... I think the Motec Bars are the strongest, but they are not the cheepest.
Regards....justjeff
Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm hoping for a boot that's a little lower, something that I could actually wear to work, and maybe hike a bit in, if I rode my bike into the woods to some hiking trail. We'll have to see. I guess my New Balance trail running sneakers aren't exactly the safest choice for riding lol

The SW Motec ones aren't that expensive, relatively speaking. Yes, I think any price starting with $2xx is overpriced for some bent bars of steel (steel bar stock is dirt cheap, so are welds, and manufacturing just takes a fixture - not talking about big-dollar tooling costs :26: ), but those ones are at least less expensive than the PD bars.

Do the bars stick out from the bike, or do they fit pretty tight? I saw some pics online that made them look like they came off the bike pretty far.
 
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