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greetings from a n00b on the site.

I recently picked up an '89 w/ 25k on the clock and no maint records.
called a local shop to quote valve adj since I just don't have a proper shop o fmy own. Their quote for a "full - service" on my bike is 250.00 and includes valves adj and 40 other things ( which are listed in the owner's man ).

is it worth it? can anyone recommend a good shop? I'm capable of most maintenance, but do not have the room to tear into it now. What does the manual suggest?

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I am not capable of much more than changing the oil, so take this with a grain of salt. If I bought a bike that old that I didn't know much about, I would want it thoroughly checked out. I would find the best shop I could and bite the bullet on the cost (assuming it wasn't absurd). $250 doesn't seem that absurd to me if they are actually going to get into the bike and do some work. If they are just going to change the oil and do a "tune up", I would tell them where to stick it. They need to be very specific about what will be done. It sounds like they were. I would also ask to watch. Just tell them you want to learn...but it will keep them honest, too.
 

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You're in a real delimma. I'm sure there are a couple of honest and square dealerships around, but I don't know them. And anyone can rent a stall and hang out a "Cycle Shop" sign.

I'd ask around with experienced riders, particularly anyone riding a well-maintained older or classic machine. You might even consider posting a "Recommendation Wanted" ad on CraigsList. I've seen several like that here.

For that kind of service, IF it includes valve adjustments, I don't think $250 is out of line -- that's only three hours or so of shop time.

And welcome to the forum. There's good folks and lot's of good info here.
 

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upkeep on an older model

Thanks BigIron, I appreciate the input.
i'm going to check these guys out, they're the big dealer down on County Line off Sante Fe. (forgot the name)
 

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thanks guys.

I talked to the service mgr yesterday at a dealership about their "full-service". turns out it's not much more than a valve adj, oil chg and a list of "checks" that do not involve lubing any bearings, pivot points or disassembly in any way. I can't blame 'em for making a buck on it. cost is actually $275.00

I watched some of the vids on youtube yesterday and they were informative enough. I'd definitely be into a shop day for the sake of observing and lending a hand if needed. ( I'm no slouch with a wrench, and I've done some fairly involved proceedures on jeeps, I just don't have a shop.)

I'm sure this month is scratched for most guys w/ the holidays and all. I'll stay tuned to see what comes back on this...
 

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Good plan. Another issue is that if the valves test out as "within limits" even tho they may be at the very tight end of the range, they would just close it up and not replace any shims to bring them to the desired loose side of the range.

You're probably better off just changing the oil, doing other stuff you're confortable with and waiting for a tech day.
 

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Rodger that,

I took my 06 in for the 500 mile check like a good boy thinking it was on the cuff................ Whoa there, 164.99 and all they did was change the oil and smile at me when I picked it up.

19.99 for a clymer and I already had all the tools needed. I haven't messed with my valves yet because all is well at 12K. I think people over react to the valve thing. I put 66,000 miles on a 1978 GS 750 Suzuki, 54,000 on a 83 KZ 1100, and 58,000 on a 83 XV1200 Yamaha Venture not to mention a bunch of SL Honda's and MX Yamaha's and never had a valve shimmed. Yeah those quotes are for real, single self employed and love to ride. It can be done, it took 14 years but I've been around. If you need advise on a good tent I can help you there too.

Now I might be the luckiest SOB alive or the people at Kawasaki might be trying to scare me into going back to those oil changing Millionaires. At any rate I have the means to do a check if I can get myself excited enough to pull the tank, crash bars and God knows what else just to get at those little buggers.

I'll do it fore spring and post my results.

Ard
 

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Normally I am one for doing the same thing, not checking the valves like I should, but last winter with 6000 miles on the odometer, we had nothing else to do and so decided to check the valves. Dang good thing we did. All valves were at the minimum tight side already. Not only on my 07, but also on my buddies 05. We ordered new shims and all was good. Put the valves back to the loosest spec. 6000 miles later we rechecked and the valves were still at the loose end of the spec. It is a very easy job, that just takes some time and patience, I would recommend checking them on a routine basis.
 

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maintenance begun

:16a:

finally got the garage warmed up enough to begin tinkering.
decided to see what the oil screen looks like on this bugger. followed the tutorial here on the site and everything's going well, so far. I haven't finished the job yet as I need to pick up a torque wrench first.

I found the oil screen in need of cleaning. small chunks of rubber and even a piece of metal that looked like a very thin piece of tin, about the size of the end of a very small pinky finger were removed along with the screen.

I'm going to skip the new gaskets and use the form-a gasket I've got on hand. anyone else use the cheese-can type "gasket stuff"?

after everything is buttoned up on the right side of the motor, I'm planning on dismembering the forks to install the emulators I picked up last week. I guess I'll order the parts for the doo since the left side of the case has a small oil leak and needs to be taken apart anyway.

I've watched the youtube and read all about changing the doo, but I must admit, I'm not looking forward to it. I'm considering investing in a moto stand from Sears so I can get the bike situated and take my time with the job.

anyone else doing work on their bikes now?
 

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You are going to like the ATV jack if that is what you are going to get. I have one I picked up at a Shucks Auto parts store and use it every time I wrench.

What are emulators?
 

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maintenance continues...

:33a: Hardyreels,
I've only got a beginner's understanding of what emulators are, but they are a disc-shaped piece about the size of an Oreo cookie with holes and a spring coming thru the center. Emulators ( also called Cartrige Emulators or fork valving ) control the "hydraulic action" of a fork in 'Damper Rod' style forks.

From what I'm told, they make a very nice difference in the the performance of simple fork designs like those on the KLR, make the suspension more plush and apparently, the very same part # applies to all Klr's - early model and new.

They can be had for around $165.00 and installation is pretty straight forward. I plan on installing mine within the week and I'll post on how it goes. I'm always open to tips, if anyone cares to chime in :) And I'd like to tag along, if anyone else has a project going on.
 

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maintenance continues...

:16a: got the bike put back together from oil screen cleaning. no leaks that I can see, except maybe a drip from the filter cover.

the good:
no stripped bolts were found anywhere and I found replacement 'cap-style', high-strength replacements for the case bolts.

the not so good:
I discovered that one of the 'frame to motor' brackets (below the fuel tank) is cracked.

?? when I started the bike after the job, I intentionally left the choke off so that the motor would not start and circulate the oil. after several cranks, I choked it and she fired up. a few times, there was a noise that sounded like dry bearings??? it went away after idling a minute or two. Is this "normal"?

many thanks! :35a:
 

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It may have been some clutch chatter until it got some oil back on the discs. I did my screen too, but can't recall that noise, but then again, I had a Jardine exhaust and really couldn't have heard anything anway. If it quit, you should be fine.
 

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greetings from a n00b on the site.

I recently picked up an '89 w/ 25k on the clock and no maint records.
called a local shop to quote valve adj since I just don't have a proper shop o fmy own. Their quote for a "full - service" on my bike is 250.00 and includes valves adj and 40 other things ( which are listed in the owner's man ).

is it worth it? can anyone recommend a good shop? I'm capable of most maintenance, but do not have the room to tear into it now. What does the manual suggest?

Thanks!
I called a couple of kawasaki dealers a few weeks ago to see if they had any shims. I was surprised to find that two of them didn't stock them and the parts counter didn't seem to know what they were.. no kidding.

So how often do those dealers do valve adjustments when they don't stock shims??
 
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