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Just got a look at the Garmin Zumo 550... to be soon released as their first "made just for motorcycles" GPS.

Garmin's saying MSRP $1076.91. Retailers are taking pre-orders at $999.99. WHAT IS UP WITH THAT?? :shock:

It's a drool-worthy piece of equipment, no doubt, but they must be marketing to the wealthiest of riders. Their full-blown marine models (276c, 376c) are not that much.

Granted, comes with mount, etc., but I just wish they'd have a more entry-level option as part of a dedicated motorcycle line.

On another note, it's good to see they're also about to come out with some Mac OSX software... finally.
 

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It's got some great features and is very MC friendly, but that's a steep price to pay for them...

At that price, it'd be a tough call.. I picked up my Quest, Bar Mount and direct wiring (including a jack for a helmet speaker) for less than half of that price.
 

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Hey Paper, where did you get the wiring, I am just trying tofind a power plug for less than $40.00 for mine!
 

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Must be BMW and Gold Wing prices. :D What would a KLR price be?
 

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I bought my RAM mount from Aerostich for $40, and the Garmin Motorcycle kit on eBay, from a guy in Madison, WI. The kit comes with everything to wire directly, and it comes with a cradle that powers the GPS and locks it in place..
I have that whole kit on my V Strom, and just the regular RAM mount on my KLR. The Strom gets the longer rides, so I figured I'd mount it on that bike, since the battery in my Quest is good for 18+ hours.

Also, did you make it up to the new Cabela's this weekend? I'm flying out of Milwaukee tomorrow and I'll be back on Thursday afternoon. I figure I'll bounce up to Richfield on my way home.
 

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tomatocity said:
Must be BMW and Gold Wing prices. :D What would a KLR price be?
A klr rider would make his own using an etch-a -sketch :lol:
 

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Oh, and you do know the cheapest thing on a BMW is a KLR rider 8)
 

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Not marketed as a motorcycle GPS, but damn similar to the Zumo is Magellan's new 2200T & 2500T.

The 2200T will be under $500 and is topo & traffic upgradeable. They don't say what the 2500T will cost, but I would guess under $600 with topo preloaded.

From past experience the map data will most likely be more detailed than what Garmin gives you without having to buy additional software.

Sure the Zumo has a few more bells and whistles in XM radio & blue-tooth, but these Magellan's interest me more than the zumo for their off-road features.
 

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Well, that was the MSRP of the TomTom Rider when it was first introduced. But now the MSRP is $899, with a street price of around $750... and it's only been a year.

Just wait, and they most likely improve is significantly after it's been out and picked apart by real-world riders. The price will drop.

I'm kinda in agreement that the Garmin Quest 1&2 are the best value without losing any mapping features. Sure, it's not motorcycle specific, but when you think about it, Motorcycling is considered an expensive hobby, and M/C items are generally overpriced to thier car based counterparts. The "KLR Rattle" is unique in the market perspective when following price trends.

I think we are like Venesula's Gas Prices bringing down the rest of the industry that wants to raise prices... we are the "Outlyers" in the statistics. :lol:
 

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Yeah, Tom-Tom's IPX 4 rating might work most of the year in California, but in the Northwest, Garmin's got the right idea - IPX 7 - the same rating as the marine-designed c276 and c376. Guess ya get what ya pay for.

BTW, here's the IPX ratings:

IPX-0 No special protection
IPX-1 Protected against falling water Equivalent to 3-5mm rainfall per minute for a duration of 10 minutes. Unit is placed in its normal operating position.
IPX-2 Protected against falling water when tilted up to 15 degrees - Same as IPX-1 but unit is tested in 4 fixed positions - tilted 15 degrees in each direction from normal operating position.
IPX-3 Protected against spraying water - Water spraying up to 60 degrees from vertical at 10 liters/min at a pressure of 80-100kN/m2 for 5 min.
IPX-4 Protected against splashing water - Same as IPX-3 but water is sprayed at all angles.
IPX-5 Protected against water jets - Water projected at all angles through a 6.3mm nozzle at a flow rate of 12.5 liters/min at a pressure of 30kN/m2 for 3 minutes from a distance of 3 meters.
IPX-6 Protected against heavy seas - Water projected at all angles through a 12.5mm nozzle at a flow rate of 100 liters/min at a pressure of 100kN/m2 for 3 minutes from a distance of 3 meters.
IPX-7 Protected against water immersion - Immersion for 30 minutes at a depth of 1 meter.
IPX-8 Protected against water submersion - The equipment is suitable for continual submersion in water under conditions which are identified by the manufacturer.
 

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Do you happen to know what the IPX Rating is for the Garmin Quest 2?

My guess is that when most people are inclined to use the GPS in a area where they'd actually need it, the weather is probably going to be pretty fair to begin with. A KLR will not get out of serious wet and mud conditions in a an area where you could get lost.

Now out on the streets during rain, I don't think I'd need to use a GPS. I'm pretty adept at using a map and have an excellent sense of direction. But most anywhere near civilization these days is pretty well marked. I see a Cycle mounted GPS as more of a novelity on the paved roads. Fun for getting lost or geocaching for sure! 8)
 

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Yea ipx 7 is desirable for sure.

I had a Garmin e-map that was non-rated as I recall and used it in the rain quite a bit. Toad stranglers as we call them around here.
I would get water in the battery compartment, but if I left it open to dry for a day or so it was fine. It never stopped functioning due to rain, jut got a little wet inside the compartment.

I must admit I cant quite put liters/min @ kN/m2 into anything that I can relate to :? , but thought that ipx 4 was what you would call driving rain resistant.
 

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My Quest has been really soaked for hours with the only problem I've ever had was that the anti-glare coating on the face is pretty much gone because of the moisture.
If I remember correctly, I could get it re-coated, but it's fine..
 

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I have a tom tom rider and it has been soaked and soaked and soaked - no problems.

That being said, I'm not sure it is the best thing for this kind of riding - can't track where you've been, no altitude, can't plan routes on a computer and load it onto the gps - all has to be done on the gps. My biggest headache with it is it is over simplified. It is designed for anyone to use it, and works great for asphalt touring and riding - and is really good at recalculating routes for city traffic. In a nutshell, great for the hardtop. Not so great for the not-so-beaten path. I'm considering fleabaying it at a loss and going to the quest. Adventure riding wasn't even on my radar screen when I bought it last year. How does the quest work for trip planning and getting off in the middle of nowhere? (ie, adventure riding)?
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tomatocity said:
Must be BMW and Gold Wing prices. :D What would a KLR price be?
$1.95 plus free shipping and a fresh set of batteries :D
 
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