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Hello all.
I live in the Phoenix area and I suck when it comes to anything sub 60.
The riding pants I have (Tour master Caliber) seem to be holding up well when it's cold and they still have another liner I can add, but my jacket is mesh (Tour Master Intake Series 2), and even with the wind breaker and thermal insulated liner, I'm still getting cold in the AM when it's below 60. (Yes, I know, you non SW'ers are laughing it up, but I'll take sitting in 115 degree traffic fully geared rather than 58 ).
Anyway, My upper chest and well, my neck and chin area are the worst. But, I know nothing about "cold weather" gear. Any pointers?

Thanks.
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I'm in LA and consider anything below 57 to be too cold for my Olympia Transformer Don Johnson look-alike jacket.

A down vest underneath does wonders for me. Mine is a fairly thin Eddie Bower.

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Neck and face don't bother me until it get's down to the 30s, which I encounter running out the 10 to Blythe in the wee hours of midwinter.

I have a neoprene thingy that attaches to the helmet with a hole to stick my neck through - forget the name. That and a scarf help. The Olympia jacket has a high neck line.

LJ has a silk scarf that he says is wonderful. Those aren't bulky. Mine's a standard woolie.

MB4 has a neoprene thing that makes him look a bit like Bazooka Joe; pretty scary. I can't have anything covering my face.

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Bart-

Neck and face don't bother me until it get's down to the 30s, which I encounter running out the 10 to Blythe in the wee hours of midwinter.
Tom

And yet ANOTHER reason to never ever go to Blythe. (I grew up in 29 Palms)
 

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And yet ANOTHER reason to never ever go to Blythe. (I grew up in 29 Palms)
Well, really, now. I don't actually go to Blythe! I mean, who does?

I usually turn right at Chiraco Summit and go cross country on Pinto to the Bradshaw Trail and head for Coon Hollow. At the most I'd go down to the Willey Well turn off and on to CH.

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That sounds interesting. I'll have to look that up. My folks still live out that way so I make it out there once in a while. I'm actually really looking forward to riding through Joshua Tree and hitting up all my old haunts.
 

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Wiley's Well and Coon Hollow are both campgrounds that are out Wiley's Well Road.

We go out there to shoot stuff, drink Jack, tell lies, pee on bushes and act like men.

It's somewhat barren, but there are a lot of fun roads. Dec '08.


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I live just north of you (flagstaff) and am already riding in 30 degree temps. I suggest you look for a fleece neck gaiter that has windstopper gortex. I also use a vest of the same material under my riding jacket. It does wonders at blocking the wind and keeping out the cold without too much bulk. The key to staying warm and being able to adapt to changing conditions is layers!
 
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