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For those members who use hard luggage, I thought it might be informative to those who don't, to see your set up. Maybe tell (or better yet, show) what size and/or type you have, like or are planning to install. Also, what kind of mounting hardware did you use? They could be anthing from panniers, top boxes, dash boxes (for mp3 players, radar detectors :razz: , etc) or any other type of use.
This could be a great resource for those thinking of adding hard luggage.
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I like the hard panniers from ht.They stay on 24/7. I carry tools,tubes,compressor,wyoming saw,maps and a service manual in them all the time.I had them powder coated to keep from turning the stuff inside black.I don't know that I would do that again,as there are plenty of spray paints made to do the job inside the boxes.


The tie down loops are handy on top of the panniers for tying on extra luggage


The nice thing I like about tying on a large bag like ol yeller is how you pack it.I put the sleeping pads in the front and it makes an excellent back rest on long trips.
Another thing I found about hard luggage is when my lazy ole KLR lays down,it's a little easier to pick up :lol:
 

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My bike was a year old when I bought it, and came with a set of Givi hard luggage. I first saw the set off the bike, and thought it was a bit to refined for a rugged "Adventure" bike. But, once installed, I like 'em.

They hold alot of gear, are so far, water tight. They're built to withstand alot of abuse.You can open them on the bike,

Or, push the red button, to remove the whole case and use the handle to carry it to you tent, or room, and ride trails unincumberd. I use a SU rack, with Givi lug kit from Happy Trails to install.

Here is a pic of the Givis' on my bike, along with aluminum panniers on KlrMike's bike
 

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Rigger- Nice! Those Givis do look pretty good on the tractor! Is the red button on the inside of the case or the outside?

Mike- Have you ever had an issue with the hard cases hitting your legs in a crash. You said they're on 24/7. I'm assuming that is for single-track technical stuff as well. I've just heard folks say they've gotten hurt by hard panniers :?: What say you?


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I made this setup for the KLR.


This is what they look like off the bike.


I made these out of some US Army shipping containers I found. They are real sturdy, but they need a gasket to keep them from leaking.
 

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This pic shows one bike with the luggage and one with the rack only



I made two sets, one for my KLR and the other for the wife's KLR. Now that I sold her bike I have an extra set. The boxes need sanded and a fresh coat of paint, and I used silicone sealant to fill a few holes where I changed the way they mount to the racks.
 

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Very nice Daddyjoe. So you made the racks as well? How have they held up for you? Can you put a heavy load in the panniers without problems?

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panniers

Yes Jamie,I leave them on for everything.When I first got them I was crossing a ditch and put my right leg down,as my bike was going forward my calf got hit in the back by the pannier kinda dragging my leg and foot.I have adjusted to having them on there as not to put my foot straight down,but more out to the side.I leave them on for single track also,but they have caused some problems in thin areas,as I would have to swing a little off the beaten path to miss trees or rocks.The trade off is that everything stays dry and unsmashed,plus a hard surface to pack on.I have even used the panniers for a table on the trail.If I was going to do it again I would still go with hard panniers.Most of the problem is I just don't take the time to take them off.I can take each pannier of in less than 20 seconds.Unscrew two pucks inside each pannier and they are off.It all depends on how rugged you really treat your bike.I use mine considerably,on and off the trail.The amount of material you can carry is unbelievable.I also like to be able to swing my leg over the bike.Mine are from HT. Jessie luggage makes a pannier that is cut away in the front giving you more leg room,but to me the cost was prohibitive for a Klr.Hope this helps Jamie,and looking forward to More of your and Kims adventures.

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pelicans 24/7

I am using pelicans 1550, mounted to HT trails SU rack. I also have them mounted 24/7, using the bike to commute as well. I have done single track and fire roads, have gone down while off roading. they are slim enough that I had no problem while off roading. I dont believe you can find a more bomb proof set of boxes, they are water tight like others on the market. I can strap lots of stuff to them. I have strapped bungees on the inside to hold stuff in the boxes. I also have mounted the boxes up high enough, that I have not had a problem with them and my foot catching. Another friend has them mounted very low on the bike and catches his foot all the time while off roading, not a good deal!!

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anyways that's my set up! I love having hard panniers all the time. its really easy to haul stuff anytime. Usuing the bike as my commuter, its a neccesity. I would really like to have the HT panniers but cant afford them. I think they may be even more convenient with top loading. I really like the security of locking stuff up. the boxes come off really easy, and I can take them into work. I got the pelicans for free. :mrgreen: got love that. Now that I have hard panniers I dont think I go to soft!
 

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I made the racks out of 3/8 round stock, with the mounting brackets made of 1" flat stock. As far as weight, they will hold what ever I can stuff in them. I think they would bend if it wound up like Taz's bike in the previous pic, but I could bend the back in the woods without any trouble.
Here is a pic of them loaded on my trip to the left coast.

 

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Re: panniers

klrmike said:
.Hope this helps Jamie,and looking forward to More of your and Kims adventures.
Mike
I really started this thread for the general membership. I thought this site could use a bit more technical stuff from the really knowlegeable folks that have already experienced things that others are facing. I am currently running soft saddle bags (wolfman expedition.) I really like them. I did get the Heavy HT SU side racks so that if I ever want to switch, I can. I love that folks, like you, are so willing to offer you expertise and probably more importantly, share your experience for us relative green horns!

Taz, that is a really good looking set up. Making sure the boxes are mounted high is a really great tip. They look right though. You could probably mount a top box on there as well, couldn't you? Anyway, thanks.

Daddyjoe,
I toyed with making my own racks. Those buggers are so expensive to buy. But it came down to a couple problems: 1) I don't know how to weld (a problem I'm hoping to cure over the winter,) and 2) I don't know anyone with a tubing bender. I have a friend with a pretty good metal shop, but no bender. I also just don't have time right now. Your's sure turned out nice. I'm afraid that as much as I end on my side when single tracking, I'd pretzel those up pretty quick! That is less a commentary on your racks as it is on my riding skill....trust me! Thanks for the post!


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Hey Jamie,thanks for you question. The red button is on the outside of each case, just above the key lock. Just unlock with the key, then push the button and they lift right off. To install, just slide them on the two pins on the bottom of the rack, and then give the top a shove to lock them on the puck at top of the rack.

I'm glad DaddyJoe showed us how to have some nice hard luggage that doesn't cost a fortune. My Givi setup currently would be around $650 at HT,including rack, top plate adapter, and hardware. Aluminum panniers are slightly more. Cost is a real drawback to luggage,hard or soft, unless you can get pelicans for free, like Taz!
 

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JC whitney vs Givi hard luggage

I wanted hard luggage that locks and that I could easily remove without having to open the luggage and unscrew bolts. It was also important that it wouldn't be too hard to install. That narrowed my choices to Givi bags on a Happy Trails SU rack (they sell mounting hardware for Givi luggage) or the Caribou Pelican system. I like the rugged looks of the Pelican system but I found a really good deal on Givi E360 bags on e-bay so it ended up being much cheaper to go with the Givi's. To save money I decided to order the JC Whitney top box shown here.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Search?catalogId=10101&storeId=10101&sku=zxe20997G&TID=190003797GMT1006#review

The website says the large one costs $71.99 but I placed my order by phone and I was only charged $40 (including the mounting bracket). This was less than 2 weeks ago so the deal may still be in effect.

Well it turns out that the JC whitney box is almost identical to my Givi E360s including the mounting system. Thus one could order 2 of these and mount them on a Happy Trails rack and you've got some pretty cheap lockable, removable hard side bags. Mind you the JC whitney boxes probably wouldn't last as long and are probably not waterproof, but at 40 bucks a piece they are practically disposable. I took some pictures showing them side by side.






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Just got my pelicans (1430's from cases4less.com) in the mail and was excited that a full gallon of milk would fit in there! Woo hoo! I just sold my car, so this is my commuter and grocery getter. If I wanted to, I could fit 2 gallons of milk in one pelican with room for a loaf of bread on top. Now I just need to secure the bike. I kinda put the cart (or the panniers) before the horse.






 

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That's a really great reference shot. Now I can actually think about side cases... because I only wanted top opening cases, and had no visual reference to how big the 1430's actually were.

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You like references eh? They have pretty crummy...nope...very crummy pictures of their products. You can't even tell if they have wheels or not. Anyways, here is my last reference. (did I reference overkill?)
Note: I am in no way affiliated with Hellmans mayonaise, Oscar Mayer bologna, Vitamin D milk, Bunny wheat bread, Pelican cases/cases4less, or AGV helmets. But if they wanna give me kickbacks for this, I'll take 'em though. :mrgreen:

 
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