I believe it's same size as your G3 KLR. But time will tell when we get real world testing.
My guess is not as good but at a lower price point. See my post with Suzuki's entry. That looks like a good match up to the Tuareg and T7, on specs that is. Way more suspension travel. My guess is also going to be around sub-$11k for both Honda and Suzuki entries, right smack dab on Yamaha's T7 territory. Serves Yamaha right for having such limited supply. I think their market share is about to shrink big time.Curious to see how it pairs up to the Taureg 660.
I still prefer the look of the G3 KLR that's for sure. The Honda looks like the CB500x.I'm really torn. I waited to buy a KLR 650s until Honda released this. A Transalp 750 with the lower accessory seat is about the same height as the KLR650s. Oh man...decisions decisions.
View attachment 37954 View attachment 37957
Only four years long. I suppose it takes that long to develop an all new engine. Same with Suzuki's all new P-twin.Didn't take them long to catch up.
Try not to get too excited. It's similar to the AT but it is NOT an AT.Bro it’s a Honda
Honda doesn’t make anything that isn’t reliable and very well engineered.
The rear suspension is all from the AT, ever rode one? They’re a beast.
The KLR isn’t even in the same class with T7s, ATs and the new Transalp !
I love my KLR but it’s too slow and I’m over the 70s tractor engine.
Suspension adjustability is great to have. It's a big dividing line between a bargain bike and one that is higher spec. Especially preload at the rear, plus rebound/compression damping at both ends. It makes a difference if you know what you're adjusting. Zero adjustability up front is a sure sign it's a bargain bike.Adjustable suspension?
F that! Don’t need or want.
wtf is a KLR!
Your Unicorn doesn't exist. You have to build it like so many others have, and spend a $hit ton of money doing so. There just isn't a sub-400 lbs. wet adventure bike with great range, suspension, wind protection, cargo carrying capacity, some crash protection, great power to weight ratio. Nothing. Doesn't exist. You have to build it.Kinda disappointed on likely weight of new Honda and Suzuki "middleweights". Hate to be that guy that's looking for the unobtainable unicorn bike ( which isn't the same for everyone), but a 400 lb or less is still my limit for solo riding. My small statue and age/crash related decrepitude cannot put much more than a Gen 1 back on it's wheels. That said, the T700 my riding buddy has is sweet, and the Tuareg has great reviews also. Still looking for that sub-400 pounder that has modern suspension and reasonable service intervals. The 690/701 is light and amazingly smooth (dual couterbalancer versions), but have some reliability issues. Seems like the Honda 500X with some careful weight reduction and longer travel suspension/and 18-21" tires for $9000 would be a seller. Too bad AJP PR7 is not more available, checks a lot of boxes. The 450RL looks good, but small oil capacity, and cost of adventurizing it is up there. Wish KTM would make an R version of their 390 adventure platform (modern engine, longer travel suspension, decent reliability and maybe 8K or less?)
Maybe we should all get together and design one? I nominate OCL as team captain.
Yeah I hear yah. That's why I didn't go for it. I've done the math with the 690 as well. All in, with bigger tank, comfy seat, windshield, rear rack, was going to be $13k including price of new bike. Not too bad considering weight will be around 355 lbs. wet and the motor doesn't need anything. This would be the way to go if you've got the extra $$ and must have it under 400 lbs.I'd require a twin cylinder counter balanced engine to start. I did the dr650 rabbit hole already. It was still a paint shaker after all the thousands I threw at it.