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Hello guys!


I am trying to get an adventure system for the new upcoming trip this summer.

After doing some reaserch i found the Dainese explorer and the Alpine Stars Valparaiso. Price wise they are okish but what i am really interested apart from the price, is the ability of the system to be a truly four seasoned one with removable layers.

I know there is Klim as well but the price...come on! Spending so much money for a single layered jacket i dont think it's worth it.

Anyway, I also found this company called siima motowear who are about to release an adv system and it is considerably cheaper than the other ones.

These guys claim a 360 degree removable layer and transformation of the jacket into a summer net plus hydration pocket up to 3L.

Any thoughts and reccomendations are highly appreciated.

Thank you for your help!


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I Googled Slima Motorwear and came up empty. Never heard of the brand and it may be only in your part of the globe. Put a link in a post with a couple extra characters after HTTP and we'll fix it so it works.
 

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yea it's siima...
anyway i ve seen their video their new sibirsky adv jacket and it's really interesting.
I never seen anything like this before. Really clevel idea.
I am tempted to buy it and wanted to know your opinion on the subject
 

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Interesting, indeed!

Buy it, and give us an evaluation, Jack357!

BTW, what is the exchange rate, dollars vs. Euros?

A competitor to the jacket's materials might be a Gore-Tex-type fabric. The "waterproof" linings or covers sometimes tend to be hot and humid. Otherwise, this Siima jacket has extraordinary ventilation capability (middle shell removable, 360-degrees worth).

Yet . . . Gore-Tex costs plenty.

My REV'IT Gore-Tex jacket and trousers (provided me by my employer) list for more than the median value of all KLR650s on the road today! REV'IT advertises the wardrobe as adequate for round-the-world travel; don't doubt that, but . . . the capability comes at a price.

Come on, test and evaluate that Siima jacket for us! :)
 

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The exchange rate is 1 USD =0.917831EUR
So not that much difference.

The waterproof lining is 100% waterproof since it is just a nylon like material.
I ve bought wateproof covers in the past.
So basically these guys make the same. The difference is that they are patterned according to the jacket design, they have pockets and a hood so you can wear it independently.

I am fed up with single layered jackets that claim to be four seasoned. At least this one is totally modular according to the season. I dont think it will fail me.

I will contact the guys and as soon as it is released i am buying it.
I will send you guys images and feedback about it.

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I ride many miles in all kinds of weather each year. I try to make all clothing serve several purposes. My main ridding pants and jacket are almost all mesh for hot weather (not waterproof with no removable waterproof or cold weather liner) with pockets for knee, elbow, shoulder, back and other pads. For the rain I have a good breathable jacket and pants. For cold days off the bike I have a ski jacket and blue genes. For camping I take long underwear.

As it gets colder I can put on some or all of the above over and under the mesh gear. On a cold camping night I will wear as much of the above as necessary in the sleeping bag. Everything has two uses. I couldn't tell you the brand name of any of it. It is not who made it, but what it does for me that is important.
 

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I hate carrying multiple layers for gear. My Klim Jacket and pants are good for all year long depending on my base layers. I spent a bunch of money on heated liners and I have not used them since buying the Klim. Each piece was purchased on closeout and was about 40% off. Very much worth the outlay.

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It seems that you found a way that is convinient to you when it comes to your clothing gear. Apart from that, i take the fact you said "it's not who made it but what it does that's important".
Of i will carry standard clothing with me but let's take an example: Say you are in vietnam and while super humid and hot you have the summer layer on. But 10 min later is starts to rain, a lot. So you stop and put your waterproof layer on top.

Whereas if you had a single layer jacket, my experience says that you will either get too hot in a place like this, or you want be protected from heavy rain as no textile (not even Klim is 100% waterproof). But that's in extreme rain conditions i guess.

On the flip side, the waterproof layer (e.g Reissa lining) is trully waterproof in the heaviest rain. I tested it my self in extreme rain for about two hours of riding (at 30km cause i couldn't go faster, in fact i could barely see in front of me).
I was surprised to see that my t-shirt was absolutely dry when i stopped.

So, going back to the Siima Sibirsky i believe that this jacket can truly do the job in multiple climates. Of course there is only one way to find out.
 

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I hate carrying multiple layers for gear. My Klim Jacket and pants are good for all year long depending on my base layers. I spent a bunch of money on heated liners and I have not used them since buying the Klim. Each piece was purchased on closeout and was about 40% off. Very much worth the outlay.

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I haven't tested Klim but for me a 1500EUR system that has 40% discount and goes down to 800-900EUR it's still expensive for me even though it's a very good deal if you have the money.

As mentioned in previous comment i find it hard to believe that a single layer will be equally good on 40 and 0 celsius.
 

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Sorry, I haven't been around in a while, but unless Klim is WAY more expensive over there, my whole setup is about 600 USD not including my base layers, which i would have anyway. Probably closer to $550, but I have had it for so long I do not remember what I paid. Not a single seam pulled, no frays, they are just very dirty because of where I usually ride with them.
 
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