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I gotta tell you this Phelp's thing has really surprised me. Some of the media and his sponsor's do not have a problem with him smoking dope. What kind of a message do they think they are sending our children ?
 

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You didn't want to get me started on athletes....

Far as smoking dope, it's been proven that drinking is far worse yet it's legal and Phelps probably chugs a few quite regular. Matter of fact, he was busted for DUI.

Having "idols" is ridiculous, expecially these days and parents should be explaining to their kids the reality of sports.

The level of intensity being achieved anymore cannot be reached by normal athletes. Average Joe cannot beat the people who are willing to sacrifice their entire income and entire life to the sport. Whether it be training 24/7/365 or willing to endure massive injuries like MX Freestylers. The few people that do excel, and I say few because in the grand scheme it is just a few, manage to do so by simply having natural talent that no amount of training can make up for. I understand kids need encouragment, but at some point they need to know the reality of what makes a person excel above others and to know that they may not be able to achieve that same level intensity due to lack of natural ability.

Look at Armstrong. He has a natural born condition that allows him to excel at endurance sports. If he and another person train with exactly the same intensity, Armstrong will always beat them due to his natural extra boost that the other guy will never be able to have.

Then you look at Travis Pastrana who is willing to die for a win which is why he was never defeated in Freestyle. He was huge in motocross & supercross for the same reasons, but his freestyle antics kept him from focusing on them. Metzger was insane, but was no longer willing to die after his kid was born and slowly faded away. They say the mx backflip retired 80% of the riders at the time who weren't willing to push to that level.

People give kids a lot of false hopes by allowing them to think they will excel if they only train, train, train. Training won't develop the willingness to devote your entire life to the sport or the willingness to die for it.
 

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My .02 are now useless...

I saw the name of the thread, but you stole my soapbox, Wanderer. ;)

Couldn't agree more. Good point about Lance...Phelps was built for swimming, too.

And, dude just won a bunch of gold medals, can retire at 23, can get mad girls despite having a face like my cousins, and people are surprised he is partying his face off? I've known some competitive swimmers and they all smoked tons of weed and were alcoholics before they graduated HS. (The HS school I went to had a nationally ranked water polo team).

Phelps isn't a role model. He's just a dumbass who got lucky in the genetics department. I agree...parents, teachers, coaches...that's where you want to find your role models.
 

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I agree...natural tallent is the reason the majority of sports people get to the top of their field....I have a natural tallent for playing a sport...my father coached ..my brother always wanted to play...but never got anywhere near the level I got to. I didn't really train that much to get where I was. Yes I played 6 days a week and won my first trophy at 12...but wasn't living to play, like many others. Even now I bet it would take me 30 minutes to get back the eye to hand co-ordination to beat most recreational players.

As for the pay scale and amount of perks and GOD like status we raise these atheletes to...it's criminal!..IMHO!
 

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It doesn't matter to me what the guy does, smoke, drink, the only Phelps I'll always remember is the guy from the original Mission Impossible. I don't know if he smoked dope but he was funny in Airplane.

We as a nation take the sports thing way too seriously. If I was to have a sports hero as of lately it would be Pat Tillman.
 

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Yep He is gonna get lucky in the fame department now along with Tonya Harding and other's. lol
Do you think they could take his medal's ?
 

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Not unless they think he was on some enhancing drugs that they can proove!
As said..he will either be forgotten or put on the discraced shelf....either way...he asked for it!:18:
 

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Shoulda said he never inhaled... he could be president.
 

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Yep He is gonna get lucky in the fame department now along with Tonya Harding and other's. lol
Do you think they could take his medal's ?
Phelps is a long way from Tanya Harding. Take his medals, no way I want to see one athlete prove marijuana helps in a sport like swimming
 
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