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Greetings Everyone,

This is my first KLR250/1991. I bought it fully restored and it looks great. I ride mostly Harley's and have a CR250 that collects dust because 1-Don't have the time for it. 2-Too much bike/power for my old arse.

My questions/concerns

KLR Performance - Ok first thing I noticed after I got it, it is noting like my CR250, far slower. Are all older KLR 250's much slower than the racing MX bikes? I truly did
not expect it to get up and go like my CR250 or some new YZ250 4 stroke, but holy crap, the KLR250 is a HUGE difference as far as being slower.

Odd Sound - On the left side (I assume the stator area) I keep hearing a clicking sound when decelerating. Any ideas?

Exhaust - I must admit it sounds wimpy, similar to a moped. I want to use this as a commute bike and want motorists to hear me for safety. Any recommendations
that will give it more growl? Note that I'm not in to cheapie mods that make bikes sound like $hit. I'll pay the $$ for the right fix/mod.

Oil - For my other bikes, cars, boats I try to keep things simple to prevent having to drive all over the place to get fluid for this, over there and so on... Mobil has always
been my favorite because it's good and I can get it anywhere. Any objections with moving to Mobil synth for this KLR250?
 

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Can't gauge your expectations, speed-wise; my '03 tops 80 with a 14-tooth countershaft sprocket.

Noise . . . Huh? Not sensitive to engine sounds, myself; satisfied with stock exhaust (even though, everyone knows, "Loud pipes save lives!" They certainly get trails and riding areas closed).

Oil? Kawasaki literature suggests, 'most anything flowing from a bottle is o.k. But--keep an eye on the sight glass!

Welcome, and best wishes with the KLR250.
 

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Compared to a CR250 it would be way slow. Compared to a DR200E it would be fast (my wife has one). I have both an '04 KLR250 and an '05 KLR650. The 250 has less power, but is much lighter and more nimble and has adequate power for trail riding.

I don't have any idea what the decelerating clicking noise would be. The chain is on the left.

Stock exhaust is fine with me. Oil is mostly personal preference but I prefer Rotella. Use what you want as long as it isn't "energy conserving" and change it regularly.

The KLR250 is really kind of a fun bike in the dirt, and works just fine in town and on back roads. I don't take mine on interstates or busy highways, but a person could. Enjoy!
 

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Oil is mostly personal preference but I prefer Rotella. Use what you want as long as it isn't "energy conserving" and change it regularly.
First of all, anyexcuse, I agree generally with your post above (although I've taken my '03 KLR650 on Interstates, even their express lanes; gotta flog it, but . . . it'll keep up with traffic!).

I've heard/read the admonition; "No 'energy-conserving' oil, or oil containing, 'friction modifiers,'" before. However, I've never seen any Kawasaki prohibition against these lubricants in any "official" publication; instead, Kawasaki provides API Service Code and temperature-related viscosity recommendations only.

The playground buzz has it, the taboo oils defeat wet clutches; but . . . again, I know of no case where any KLR clutch was rendered inoperative from using the verboten substances.

Not trying to argue; and . . . I carry no brief for either "energy-conserving" oil or "friction modifiers;" just--I remain unaware of the source and the reason for the sanction against them. I'd ride on, with the appropriate API Service Code and viscosity; maybe to my peril! :)

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On another forum, and experienced KLR650 rider has posted, the only oil problem he's aware of with KLRs is . . . oil STARVATION.
 

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First of all, anyexcuse, I agree generally with your post above (although I've taken my '03 KLR650 on Interstates, even their express lanes; gotta flog it, but . . . it'll keep up with traffic!).

I've heard/read the admonition; "No 'energy-conserving' oil, or oil containing, 'friction modifiers,'" before. However, I've never seen any Kawasaki prohibition against these lubricants in any "official" publication; instead, Kawasaki provides API Service Code and temperature-related viscosity recommendations only.

The playground buzz has it, the taboo oils defeat wet clutches; but . . . again, I know of no case where any KLR clutch was rendered inoperative from using the verboten substances.

Not trying to argue; and . . . I carry no brief for either "energy-conserving" oil or "friction modifiers;" just--I remain unaware of the source and the reason for the sanction against them. I'd ride on, with the appropriate API Service Code and viscosity; maybe to my peril! :)

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On another forum, and experienced KLR650 rider has posted, the only oil problem he's aware of with KLRs is . . . oil STARVATION.
If you read my post carefully I was writing of my KLR250 not being my favorite on interstates. My KLR650 is much better for that.

I guess the no "energy conserving" thing is just something I've heard many, many times. I have no explicit experience with them causing problems.

Using non-enhanced oil, I sold a Wing with 80,000 miles on it, one with 152,000 miles on it, and a Connie with 94,000 miles on it, all without ever having clutch problems.
I know that is no evidence that other oils would have created problems.

That said, I'm sorry I offered my advice. Use any 10-40 API SE, SF, SG or SH, SJ, or SL with JASO MA, and change it every 6,000 miles like the owners manual says.
 

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First of all, anyexcuse, I agree generally with your post above (although I've taken my '03 KLR650 on Interstates, even their express lanes; gotta flog it, but . . . it'll keep up with traffic!).

I've heard/read the admonition; "No 'energy-conserving' oil, or oil containing, 'friction modifiers,'" before. However, I've never seen any Kawasaki prohibition against these lubricants in any "official" publication; instead, Kawasaki provides API Service Code and temperature-related viscosity recommendations only.

The playground buzz has it, the taboo oils defeat wet clutches; but . . . again, I know of no case where any KLR clutch was rendered inoperative from using the verboten substances.

Not trying to argue; and . . . I carry no brief for either "energy-conserving" oil or "friction modifiers;" just--I remain unaware of the source and the reason for the sanction against them. I'd ride on, with the appropriate API Service Code and viscosity; maybe to my peril! :)

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On another forum, and experienced KLR650 rider has posted, the only oil problem he's aware of with KLRs is . . . oil STARVATION.
I haven't seen any for a number of years but I remember some of the early "energy conserving" oils as having teflon or graphite as additives. Both of these additives were not friendly to wet clutches.
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I hope this isn't turning into another oil thread.



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That's a ssslllliiiippppeeerrryyy slope!!:pot:
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The OP asked about oil. I didn't know mentioning "energy conserving' would be so controversial. I shall refrain.

What oil you use in the privacy of your own garage is nobody's business!

No worries my friend, it's all for fun. You'll get used to us.
 

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No offense intended; I only asked the source of the popular admonition, "Don't use "energy-conserving" oils or oils containing "friction modifiers," in the KLR context. Also, the consequences, should one ignore the caution; again, in the KLR-specific case.

Perhaps, not unlike the GEICO mantra, "Everybody knows that!" :)

I have no point of view, regarding the taboo against "energy-conserving" and "friction modifiers." The "unwritten law," may be unwritten, but it may still be the law. Different lubricants doubtless have different lubricities and thus different clutch engagement behaviors; to the extent of total avoidance to prevent damage/malfunction? Maybe so.

I regret any offense my question might have given anyone; as mentioned, I've heard/read of the proscription against "energy-conserving" and "friction modifiers" myself.

Protracting the discussion, zinc compounds may be considered "friction modifiers." And, men say, Mobil 1 contains zinc compounds. However, don't recall anyone saying Mobil 1 should be avoided, for that reason.

Again, regrets if asking for a Kawasaki reference or evidence of the undesirable effects of using "energy-conserving" oil and/or "friction modifiers" was inappropriate or inadmissible.

P.S. I'm with you, anyexcuse; my KLR650 is more comfortable on the Interstates than my KLR250, also! :)
 

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The OP asked about oil. I didn't know mentioning "energy conserving' would be so controversial. I shall refrain.

What oil you use in the privacy of your own garage is nobody's business!
No controversy, malice, conflict or antagonism detected. Just a bunch of good natured guys sharing their experience and common interest.
Some time ago an inmate described this forum as a bunch of friends sitting around a campfire and that still holds true. If someone writes in with a problem, the people on here do their best to help out! Maybe not all replies are accurate but I have seen very few which were not well meant.
Best Regards....justjeff
 
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