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I registered here resulting from reading a friends blog covering his many adventures across this wonderful country astride his KLR... Rather insightful, enticing, even strayed well into the personal Zin if you will being totally separated from technology. As if going back in time, a time we both began our lives. Only he a bit younger than I, still, he moved me to act, so here I am.

I have visited the KLR many many times throughout past years, but have never acted on my impulses. Affordability is not the issue, I guess its safety related. I have been down five separate times on two wheelers. Back then. I rode strickly because I was seriously amongst those, in the poor house. Bikes were cheap to maintain and operate. I did love riding, but, in reality, it was what it was.

I am 58, medically retired due to numerous physical phycological injuries, as I lived by the gun for over thirty years, lacked education and the gift of "Perfecting the Art of Kissing Ass" and the fact I am Caucasian, anybody wishing for clarification on this matter feel free to axed me, only the facts I will give you. I understand the rules, and I understand todays "thought Police"

I know, I already have activated the moderator and I suppose he is readying the ban key. But? before you do, I will transmit this message to all that read my words. This my friends is a Free Republic, NOT a democracy as you hear bannied about on the news, we face real threats to our United States Constitution, YOUR freedom, the young, the youth of today. It will only remain so if you so choose to keep our sacred documents "The United States Constitution" close to your hearts.

However, being from the all guts, no glory era of peacekeeping has left me in a cunundrum regards to todays new idea/s of facing not only our enemies, but our more domesticated threats, topics few wish to have open dialog. With that tiny bit of insight into who and what kind of public fodder I once was, I'll move it back to the topic of dual sport enjoyment. As I someplace in my broken but not battered heart I yearn for the freedom two-wheels lend me...

Thats all,

Happy Trails.
Roy Rogers and Dell Evans...:desismiley1:
 

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Thanks for the well written post. And if any Moderator has his hand over the ban key-I'd be real surprised. I am also 58 and probably have many of the same wounds. But I am healing...I completely agree with your thoughts vis-vis our country...I have seven grandkids,with another due in September. I want this great republic to still be around. We can not go the way of Greece,etc. Or I'll pack em all up and move to New Zealand or Canada! So to the bikes....I love to ride enthusiastically! I find it cures my ills..hope the same is true for you. God bless.


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Sometimes it seems some folks don't like much of what I have to say, I'm tired of wearing an invisible speech muzzle.


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Enjoy your free speech, we like minded will read and enjoy, other left minded can not read, or read and rebuke whatever they choose. The best part of this forum is we are all grown ups. And welcome to the forum


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Welcome to the forum... (from your neighbour to the north)

Looking forward to some of your KLR adventures/mods/stories...

Ride safe
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Never owned a KLR, other bikes yes, my toys have grown a bit much to the wife's chagrin.

Regards the political climate, the large cities have brought America to a time of self-interest only and THINGS, technology has been a recent gas... all gas and little go, so much so many eligable workers from the youth or Yut squad have little to no interest in Labor involving hardship, harsh weather conditions, nor high stress.

As a background investigator, I discover all types and flavors of outwardly employable people until I open their lengthly application packet and began my work. I rarely obtain a packet that is not littered with varmint droppings as our yut fails to understand integrity, honor, commitment, and honesty in applying for positions of armed enforcers of the law. I have come to realize I believe this climate of irresponsibility-possibly a National Security crisis.

I doubt you'll hear much about any of it... as I suppose the average citizen would be knocked for a loop realizing these new age kiddies apply sporting a truckload of baggage, I wrote much more but deleted it.

It is what it is, I am merely bringing up my small part in describing our countries diminishing returns the education system passes along, lacking social responsibility and mutual respect for one another as freedom loving citizens.

A general lack of self realization in the fact, too many kids do not recognize how blessed they are living here, and just how awesome the opportunities I never ever had!

That felt good...

Getting back to the two wheeler arena I have many years of past old fashion off-road, our version of creative night time (Rabbit and Coyote Interdictions) AKA poaching from the back of a motorcycle, expedition (On the serious cheap) and pavement running background. I have worked two wheeler accidents resulting in death, serious injury to include my own harsh close call landings of varying speeds and conditions. If anyones interested and I hope your not, I'll give a bit of background as I have never published my creds. As I care little anymore about much to do with any of it. Including that fact most are irrelevant in todays world.

I have stories of past motorcycle owies involving face planting, ripping my nuts off, landing in an oil sump in front of my 7th grade love of my life... while she and her friend, both as beautiful as a young man could ever place his eyes upon.

Aaah? Those memories...

I am a man of many antics growing up here in B-Town, so much so if Miss Oprah and her sidekick Opie feel good tell me how you feel crew... I mean Doctor Ph-ill excuse me... I'd be immediately forced into a strait jacket and placed in a quiet room with thorazine soon thereafter being administered! Deep long hours of psycho annal-lizing would surely follow with even more psychotropic drugs being administered.

Aaah... Yes? Am I in my "Happy place yet Doctor"

Isn't DARK humor fun...

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... all gas and little go, so much so many eligable workers from the youth or Yut squad have little to no interest in Labor involving hardship, harsh weather conditions, nor high stress.
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A general lack of self realization in the fact, too many kids do not recognize how blessed they are living here, and just how awesome the opportunities I never ever had!

That felt good...
I am sure when our parents and grand-parents looked at us when we were young, they would have said he same thing.

I started work at the sweet age of 13 working up to 18-hour days in a fish plant. My life today is less physical and more mental but we all eventually pay our dues....The next generation may be a bit slower at starting life on their own but eventually they will come around, we did (or most did anyways)

I have four daughters and the oldest has her own job saving her money for her first motorcycle and has her career aspirations in front of her.... the others are varying ages and following suit.

I have learned from raising them that kids cannot be pampered all the time because they do not learn the value of something. There is also a balance between a workaholic and having fun...it is something even adults seem to forget (work/life balance); but a KLR is a good step in that direction


Now to put away my soap box...

Ride Safe :bike:
 

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I haven't lost faith in our youth. I agree with fradsham that parents and elders have been lamenting the downfalls of the next generation for probably centuries and would also point out that the generation that came of age in the 1960's & 1970's is the one responsible for introducing widespread recreational drugs to our culture and look how that's turned out, so we really have no room to talk. To paraphrase an old Who song, I think the kids are all right. If they're not all right, who raised them?

Around here, jobs for kids have been supplanted by not only technology, but also adults.

Different methods of farming and tillage have wiped out the suck-ass farm jobs we flocked to as kids to make some money. The last bastion and hope for kids, mowing lawns, has been taken over by adults operating "lawn services." Both the owners and customers of the lawn care services sit around harping about how all the kids are either lazy or have nothing to do. I can't really blame the farmers as they pretty much have to utilize the latest technology in order to survive: there's no going back to the way things were on the farm.

Personally, I don't see how the next couple of generations can mess things up in this country any more than we already have over the past 50 years and they may very well wind up making it better if they can ever find jobs after having to borrow ridiculous amounts of money just to earn a 4-year degree from a standard state university.

My co-workers range in age from 21 to 70 and I've found that the older workers are no more ethical or hard-working than the younger ones. I work with 55-year-olds that sit around and bitch because they're not able to retire yet and that they've "earned it" because they've worked for a whopping 30 years. I asked one of them one day if he'd give up the next 10 years of his life if he could retire early and he said yes. That's a hell of a philosophy. No health problems with him or his family: he just doesn't want to work anymore and wants the state to support him until he hits 62.

At least a few times a year, all the older people are gossiping about some alleged "early retirement" incentive or griping about how the system is designed to keep them working until they die so the government can save SS money while the younger people I work with are saying, "Man, I'm just glad I got a job with halfway-decent pay and benefits so I can take care of my family."

If anything, I'm more impressed with the younger people I work with than the ones my age or older and if I had to pick an age group to work with every day, I'd pick the younger ones. I think we've already make their life more difficult than they'll ever make ours and, if they do, I'd dare say we had it coming.

If you have any reservations about today's youth, look no further than America's volunteer military force, in my opinion the best and most dedicated troops this country has ever produced.
 

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My opinions regarding future and current positions requiring overall traits or qualifications desired of such demanding positions are getting more difficult to fill. I simply say it in a manner of conversational reflection not meaning I dislike or even demean young people in general, I am offering opinion you most probably will never read in our newspapers.

However? Whenever a great upset occurs such as recent Secret Service doing the diddly on tax-Payers time card, or police officer's engaged in very unethical even illegal activities, or Covert Agencies personnel releasing our states secrets, we background investigators speak out within our various forums.

Looking back on it now, I should never have brought the topic up to began with and I wish now I would have just kept my mouth shut.

Qualifications for police officer usually sift through two to three hundred candidates before the final results of just one qualified applicant/police officer.

Higher levels requiring much much more In-depth surveillance and footwork knock-knock interviewing can be a real bear from what 'I' understand, as I have never entertained the idea of going to work conducting federal high level background investigations.

I hope this clarified my thought.

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My opinions regarding future and current positions requiring overall traits or qualifications desired of such demanding positions are getting more difficult to fill. I simply say it in a manner of conversational reflection not meaning I dislike or even demean young people in general, I am offering opinion you most probably will never read in our newspapers.

However? Whenever a great upset occurs such as recent Secret Service doing the diddly on tax-Payers time card, or police officer's engaged in very unethical even illegal activities, or Covert Agencies personnel releasing our states secrets, we background investigators speak out within our various forums.

Looking back on it now, I should never have brought the topic up to began with and I wish now I would have just kept my mouth shut.

Qualifications for police officer usually sift through two to three hundred candidates before the final results of just one qualified applicant/police officer.

Higher levels requiring much much more In-depth surveillance and footwork knock-knock interviewing can be a real bear from what 'I' understand, as I have never entertained the idea of going to work conducting federal high level background investigations.

I hope this clarified my thought.

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Eh, people who keep their mouth shut may be considered wise, but they're also pretty boring. I apologize if I didn't get the true gist of your post. You're certainly entitled to your opinion either way.

I guess it's easy for me to say since I don't do background checks, but would note that crooked and unethical cops, spies and high-level government officials don't seem to be anything new under the sun.
 

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My opinions regarding future and current positions requiring overall traits or qualifications desired of such demanding positions are getting more difficult to fill. I simply say it in a manner of conversational reflection not meaning I dislike or even demean young people in general, I am offering opinion you most probably will never read in our newspapers.


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I understand where you are coming from, and it must be frustrating when you have to look at a person's life up to that point in time and you have to extrapolate what their future behaviour will be.

There is no magic criteria out there can tell you that a good person will not go bad and that a bad behaving individual will never be a hero in saving lives. You are placed in a position to determine what 3 billion neurons will be firing like in 10 or 20 years time....good God, I have a challenge to predict what one cylinder in a KLR will be firing like in 6 months from now

So do speak your mind, even if people may not agree, because it may be that one voice of reason that is needed.
 
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