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I have read on here about oil burning on 2008/2009 models , but when did Kawasaki resolve the issue Or did they?
 

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I will say and I'll get beaten for saying it but....imho they have gotten better but no is the answer. They have just said that it is normal for an engine to eat oil within a certain range or period and until your engine drinks it that bad they won't warrantee it.

BUT...I'm sure others with more actual experience will chime in and correct me.:popcorn:
 

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I have been looking for newer model and I seen some clean 09's at reasonable prices but do spend a bit more for a 2010 without having to have shares in an oil company:Damn:
 

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IMHO......it doesn't matter what year besides the 08 you buy, I would put the cost of a 685 kit aside as in the acutal cost of buying the bike if you need to just in case. You may never need to install the kit but if you do, the funds will be there and it may not hurt as bad? It's a bad way to think about it, but from what I have experienced many still do drink oil when used on the highway for extended periods. The gen I bikes didn't do this unless thrashed from what I have experienced. When they changed the piston and rings for the new generation they somehow screwed things up....how and why I can't say. There is some proof that the rings don't seat perfectly in the bore near the gap in the rings, some say the bore isn't perfectly round or has inperfections after time used. Some say the sleeve develops imperfections due to heat warpages or incorrect heat cycling. Some say it could be improper break in proceedures.
It doesn't matter what causes this issue the factory has said that until you drink so may cc's per 1000kms or miles this is normal....go figure?
If I were going to buy an 08 and up machine I would also have the funds for a 685 kit already set aside or already purchase the kit ready for when it is needed. Some will say I'm stupid for even saying this, but after installing 30 plus kits to date and 99% of the newer gen bikes for oil burning reasons....I see the proof.

As I said before some with much more experience with doing the work on the KLR will chime in and say different I'm sure.
 

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Well, let's put the premise (ALL Generation 2 KLR650s are prone to consume excessive oil) to the test!

HOW MANY forum members owning 2008-or-later KLR650s suffer from excessive oil consumption?

Year and mileage for those so afflicted, please!

Conversely, how many forum members owning 2008-or-later KLR650s DO NOT suffer from excessive oil consumption?

Bonus poll question: What percentage of KLR650s manufactured since the beginning of time have aftermarket pistons installed?
 

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I have been looking for newer model and I seen some clean 09's at reasonable prices but do spend a bit more for a 2010 without having to have shares in an oil company:Damn:

My 08 started burning oil at about 4K miles. It's bumping 56K miles now and has burned about 4 gallons in that time (yea I used to record the usage). So I'm into the oil company about $75.

Mine sips most of the time but extended periods around 5K rpm will cause it to drink. Not a big deal to me I check it when I fill up if on a trip.
 

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I am the second owner of my KLR650.....I ride it on the slab daily when possible at 70 to 75 MPH for 72 miles every day and it burns no oil to speak of and has 16 K on it today. Stock set-up? I have no clue. When I got the bike I planned on a 685 if needed but did not so on I go.....I would have to burn a pretty fair amount of oil to overhaul it however. For the price of a 08/09 KLR, easy math for me.:beatdeadhorse5:
 

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I put about 14000 miles on a 09. I now have a 12 just broken in. I have never added oil to either. I have noticed (possibly) slight oil consumption if riding at high speed (70 actual) some drop in the level. I guess I've been lucky. I change oil and filter fairly often. Around 2500 miles and use high quality Honda or Kawasaki 10w40. Blessings BB
 

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At 10K on my '09, it uses no oil at all. In those miles, it probably hasn't spent more than a couple of hours over 5300 rpm's or so. 95% of the time I'm under 5000. So, I'm pretty easy on it: don't know if that's a factor or not.
 

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My '08 was a well-documented oil consumer.

I can't quite figure out if my '09 is or not. I rode it a couple of hundred miles on I10 and had to add oil. Other than that one time it hasn't needed to be topped off. Late in the month I may get back out to the desert again; I'll see if it uses up oil on that trip.

Doesn't matter long term, though. Ima throw a 719 in it in a month or so.

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It sounds like i pay my money and take the chance ,and it also sounds like the oil usage is not that extreme, a 685 kit is a good suggestion something to think about.
 

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There ya go...you choose....if you ride highway speeds as stated which will be over the 5000mark, I will bet they all will burn oil at some degree...it all comes down to how much. If you ride like many do and keep it under or very close to the 5000 mark then you won't be effected by this issue....but there are some who just get a bad apple.

But...hey.....I only know what I see and work on and am going by what my customers are telling me and are experiencing when they ride their bikes. Plus the great responces after their bikes leave my shop.

I'm not sitting behind a PC screen debating stuff I have no personal experience dealing with or repairing. Like some.

I am getting seriously tired of the constant harrassment from certain members of this site....almost making it not worth the time to help people who are genuinely interested in getting help.....
Hope this helps......
 

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Well, let's put the premise (ALL Generation 2 KLR650s are prone to consume excessive oil) to the test!

HOW MANY forum members owning 2008-or-later KLR650s suffer from excessive oil consumption?

Year and mileage for those so afflicted, please!

Conversely, how many forum members owning 2008-or-later KLR650s DO NOT suffer from excessive oil consumption?

Bonus poll question: What percentage of KLR650s manufactured since the beginning of time have aftermarket pistons installed?
Then start a post and take a sample would you! If not answer the question the guy posted how about it? :46: LOL you smart guys kill me..
 

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I've got an '09 with 16k on it. I commute daily on the highway cruising at 75mph. During the first 3k miles I did notice minor oil consumption. After that original 3k I haven't burnt any oil.

I don't know if the mods that I did during the break in may have helped the issue or not. I thought for a while that doing the thermobob early may have help the situation with the engine running at the right temp during break in. But, now I just think that its dumb luck as to whether you have the issue or not.
 

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Then start a post and take a sample would you!
Gee, moriver; I thought I DID! Just that! :)

I'm incompetent to answer the question, myself:
I have read on here about oil burning on 2008/2009 models , but when did Kawasaki resolve the issue Or did they?
Thus, I thought the actual, primary evidence of hands-on Generation 2 KLR650 owners might establish some idea of the PREVALENCE of excessive oil consumption in those models.

Haven't seen much discussion of the issue, after some 2008 models, myself. I don't know if Kawasaki changed ring design/materials/manufacture or not, after 2008. With few incidents reported on this thread, perhaps so.

As Mark Twain said, "Reports of my death have been exaggerated!" From the comments of the majority of late-model KLR650 owners on this thread, the same may be true of reports of excessive oil consumption on latter-day KLR650s.

Would I perform a PRE-EMPTIVE 685 kit installation on, say, a brand-new 2013 KLR650, just in case it might happen to be an oil-burner? I don't think so; but . . . to each his/her own.
 

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Well, let's put the premise (ALL Generation 2 KLR650s are prone to consume excessive oil) to the test!

HOW MANY forum members owning 2008-or-later KLR650s suffer from excessive oil consumption?

Year and mileage for those so afflicted, please!

Conversely, how many forum members owning 2008-or-later KLR650s DO NOT suffer from excessive oil consumption?

Bonus poll question: What percentage of KLR650s manufactured since the beginning of time have aftermarket pistons installed?
Tried that once here and it never made it past Specs reply.

9,000 miles on mine now and never have to add between oil changes.
 

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My '08 was a well-documented oil consumer.

I can't quite figure out if my '09 is or not. I rode it a couple of hundred miles on I10 and had to add oil. Other than that one time it hasn't needed to be topped off. Late in the month I may get back out to the desert again; I'll see if it uses up oil on that trip.


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My '08 burned oil from just after break-in until I put a 685 in at 20K miles.

My '09 is at 16k miles and seems to burn oil on the slab. The one trip I held it to just under 5k rpms.

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Mine sips most of the time but extended periods around 5K rpm will cause it to drink. Not a big deal to me I check it when I fill up if on a trip.
My 95 uses oil in this pattern. Sometimes. I rode 240 miles last weekend, and retopped with a few oz of oil. A couple weeks before that I rode 200 miles with no consumption at all. The 200-miler had a lot less high-speed.
 

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My 2012 has 2700 miles on her ad does not burn any oil. I put a 16 counter on it righhighest so higest rams have been are 5500 at 85miles per hour. I broke it in with one tank of gas when brand new rode itthat's thats what makes piston rings seal to cylinder pressure pushing outward . You baby it and ride like Kawasaki says and you will glaze cylinder and have a bad sealing cylinder. I build bikes and tear them down so I do what I know best
 

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I hear you Jonathan

There ya go...you choose....if you ride highway speeds as stated which will be over the 5000mark, I will bet they all will burn oil at some degree...it all comes down to how much. If you ride like many do and keep it under or very close to the 5000 mark then you won't be effected by this issue....but there are some who just get a bad apple.

But...hey.....I only know what I see and work on and am going by what my customers are telling me and are experiencing when they ride their bikes. Plus the great responces after their bikes leave my shop.

I'm not sitting behind a PC screen debating stuff I have no personal experience dealing with or repairing. Like some.

I am getting seriously tired of the constant harrassment from certain members of this site....almost making it not worth the time to help people who are genuinely interested in getting help.....
Hope this helps......
Yes this for me is the first post in months same reason that's why I walked away
Points ,discussion yes ,bickering no ! Stay safe
 
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