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Hi I have a Gen 1 Bike and I'm looking to put my tire change kit together.

Anyways, I'd like a portable jack that can lift front AND back wheels. Anyone know of any?

I have only found one that would possibly work (with a skidplate), but the manufacturer cannot guarantee it will work with the front of the KLR.

See:
http://www.endurostar.com/





However this is errily like Eagle Mike's product:
http://www.eaglemike.com/Quick-Jack-qj.htm



I've never known Eagle Mike to rip anyone's ideas (I know him to be the other way around -- staunchly against that), but these products seem to be all but the same.


Anyways, are there any other portable products on the market that can do front and back? Thanks!
 

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No lawyer, I, but--doubt this product is subject to a defensible patent, since it may be, "Obvious to a journeyman skilled in the trade."

Sure, the device can be PATENTED, but--can that patent be successfully defended in court, actionable to actually collect damages for infringement?

I think lots of Chinese knock-offs fall into this category (no real patent protection available); unfortunate for the originator, perhaps, but--fact of life.

My riding partner uses a highly-modified (as in, cut down) Wal-Mart adjustable-length walking cane most effectively.
 

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Crashiverride -- does it work on the front too? And I found endurostar on ADV -- probably the same guy.
 

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No lawyer, I, but--doubt this product is subject to a defensible patent, since it may be, "Obvious to a journeyman skilled in the trade."

Sure, the device can be PATENTED, but--can that patent be successfully defended in court, actionable to actually collect damages for infringement?

I think lots of Chinese knock-offs fall into this category (no real patent protection available); unfortunate for the originator, perhaps, but--fact of life.

My riding partner uses a highly-modified (as in, cut down) Wal-Mart adjustable-length walking cane most effectively.
I don't care about the legal implications -- more along the lines of doing what is right.
 

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Interesting idea with the walking cane BTW. Is it useable on the front?
 

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Interesting idea with the walking cane BTW. Is it useable on the front?
I've only seen it used on the rear wheel, when we lubed our chains on an epic southern Appalachians ride, but--depending upon placement and extension length, I think the device should work on the front as well.

In my limited (fortunately) experience fixing flats on the trail, I've found that some arrangement allowing the ROCKING of the bike, like a see-saw, to clear the front wheel from the ground, permits axle removal/reinsertion and removal/installation of the front wheel. I think the Wal-Mart walking cane mod would do this, if not hold the front wheel off the ground continuously.
 

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I've only seen it used on the rear wheel, when we lubed our chains on an epic southern Appalachians ride, but--depending upon placement and extension length, I think the device should work on the front as well.

In my limited (fortunately) experience fixing flats on the trail, I've found that some arrangement allowing the ROCKING of the bike, like a see-saw, to clear the front wheel from the ground, permits axle removal/reinsertion and removal/installation of the front wheel. I think the Wal-Mart walking cane mod would do this, if not hold the front wheel off the ground continuously.
yeah, that is what I do when I am at home....cinderblick plus some wood spacers under the engine block. The KLR is nice and balanced, so it tips the opposite direction of the wheel I take off. Only problem is lifting a 400 lbs bike onto the stand :|
 

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yeah, that is what I do when I am at home....cinderblick plus some wood spacers under the engine block. The KLR is nice and balanced, so it tips the opposite direction of the wheel I take off. Only problem is lifting a 400 lbs bike onto the stand :|
I hear you!

My friend with the portable jack fashioned from the Wal-Mart walking cane, deftly tilts the bike over on the existing sidestand to elevate the skid plate's right side, then places the "jack" under the elevated portion and allows the bike to settle down, supported finally by the sidestand, the jack, and one wheel--front or rear, depending upon jack placement.

I have a center stand, but needed some handy nearby paving stones and a convenient plank to raise the front wheel, last time I removed it on the road. Gotta go to Wal-Mart! :)
 

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I have foot pegs and a skid plate where it could find grip to hold up the front, but I have not tried it yet. It gets the most use lifting the rear tire for chain lubes.


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^ Clever!


What I think I'm getting is the same thing my Google Searching resulted: there really isn't any great product out there (aside from a center stand). I don't want to go with a center stand though, because of cost and my fat girl already has weight problems....

Thanks everyone! If anyone thinks of any other products that might be of use, let me know!
 

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I don't want to go with a center stand though, because of cost and my fat girl already has weight problems....
Suit yourself, steferf! However, a center stand only weighs about 1/3 as much as a gallon of fuel, little consequence on a 400-lb. bike with a 6-gallon fuel tank, IMHO.
 

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Suit yourself, steferf! However, a center stand only weighs about 1/3 as much as a gallon of fuel, little consequence on a 400-lb. bike with a 6-gallon fuel tank, IMHO.
Oh. I thought they were 10 or 15 lbs....that is probably a high estimate anyways.

So I guess it is really the cost. Once a KLR owner, always a KLR owner. :)
 

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I just received my enduro star trail stand. What a great product! I was on the fence on whether or not to get a center stand when I stumbled upon this option. I figured for 40 bucks shipped how can I go wrong. It works great for getting the rear tire off the ground. I plan on getting a JNS skidplate and that should allow it to get the front up. I was actually able to prop the bike with my right hand on the handlebars while sliding the jack into place with my left. The bike easily lifts onto the side stand with minimal effort, lifting the rear wheel while you place the stand on the frame under the footpeg.
 
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