Joe what is cheap about the .com stuff or better yet tank / radiator guard? if you are going to talk something down please be specific then we all can benefit from your experiences.firefighter_joe said:
Well - basically it is a copy of the original HT design. i have seen posts about the welds not holding and made of cheaper materials.tomatocity said:Joe what is cheap about the .com stuff or better yet tank / radiator guard? if you are going to talk something down please be specific then we all can benefit from your experiences.firefighter_joe said:
When I was setting my bike up Dual star had no stock, no idea when they would have any, and I've never really dealt with them since.Viajero said:Thanks for all the response.
Is nobody using the Dual Star stuff?
They seem to look like the most well hidden, tucked in neatly behind the shroud.
I am not going to defend either .com or HT but they are not the same. I discovered this this last weekend when we loosened the upper right mounting point of a HT guard to relocate the ground wire. It was a PITA since the bolt is mounted very close to the tubing. If I was to do it for a living I would make a special tool. I checked the .com guard on my KLR (it came that way) and the mounting point is totally different and very easy to secure or remove the bolt. As far a material I can not say. The best method would be to weigh each guard and see which one is the heaviest. IMO the welds on the .com look better than the HT guards. That does not mean they are a better weld but it is an indication it is better. The finish on the .com is smooth with an excellent powder coat. The finish on the HT guard is a wrinkle paint and not smooth. When I would use that on my automobiles it was to hide a rough surface. I am not saying HT is but there is no benefit for that kind of paint on something that collects dirt. Would I use an HT, absolutely. They have a good history both in product as well as sales. .com has got a bad rep with the KLR group because they copy an unprotected idea. Tell me any of you have not done that in your life. This is America. Dell makes their living from making something better and less expensive than their competitor and that is alright. Back to KLR. IMO .com got a bad rep because they copied a product of one of our members. I love him like a brother but if you don't protect what is yours then it is fair game in the business world. Here is another issue, vendor communications. Arrowhead sell the left side switch for $69.95 and .com sells it for $59.95. What is not communicated is Fred has corrected the wiring for a KLR650 and .com is selling the universal product. Neither of these vendors tells us that and how are we to know what is what and which is which. If I had not talked to Fred about the price difference I would have bought it from .com. Fred had to tell me why his was more money though he could have added that bit of information to his webpage. All in all we have a good thing going for us with forums and vendors and we should try and help all of these to help us. Give them your feedback but don't complain unless you have a solution. What they are doing might be the only way to do it under the current circumstances. Most persons like a pat on the back and I am sure it brings a smile to their face and a day that just got easier. What was that movie "Pay It Forward". Good thoughts.firefighter_joe said:Well - basically it is a copy of the original HT design. i have seen posts about the welds not holding and made of cheaper materials.tomatocity said:Joe what is cheap about the .com stuff or better yet tank / radiator guard? if you are going to talk something down please be specific then we all can benefit from your experiences.firefighter_joe said:
I live here in Boise and have been to HT many times. Good old fashined American goods.