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Rookie considering taking the TAT. thoughts? advice?

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Alright here's what is going on: I am getting my first bike (KLR 2023) next week and am trying to figure out what to do in regards to me moving across the country. Yeah it is poor timing for all of this but the circumstances couldn't be helped. I've gotta move late August/early September and since I only have my riders permit I can't take highways. There are tons of different routes to take to get from NJ to CA but the TAT sounds like such an adventure, and would keep me away from too many cars, though I know it is very challenging. I know doing this kind of long ride so early into my riding experience is nuts, especially solo so I figured I should reach out to the KLR community, especially those with lots of experience. What do you think? Is it nuts? Do any of you know of any groups that'd be fine with a 20y/o noob tagging along? I am researching as much as I can but direct input would be greatly appreciated. Any of you who have taken the TAT know what I should expect/be wary of for going in the late summer? Thank you for your time reading this, I hope someone can get back to me.

p.s. i know that trailer-ing the bike is technically an option but I do not have that kind of money
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I didn't know what the tat was until doing some fencing on our land i talked to a few riders who stopped on top of the mountain for cell service. Apparently our land is ON the tat or possibly an Alternate route on it near the nc/va/TN border. Lol. NOBODY around here knows or calls it the tat. We have the parkway and appalachain trail that are well known. Ive rode street my whole life and rode offroad quad the whole time too. I'm just starting offroad on my bike. It's a different kind of riding for sure.

As far as moving bike... you can buy a 200 dollar 600lb capable motorcycle hauler from harbor freight for a hitch and haul it. I used one for a trip I had to do recently with no trailer. It handled the klr fine plus 200 lb extra when I was standing on it testing it. Can load and unload the bike alone too. It's not great but it will work.

Check your hitch Max weight. Some are pretty low. In all honesty a klr on a 100 lb hitch carrier is almost positively over your hitch weight max. Plenty of half ton trucks only have a 500lb max even with 10k lb trailering. Some of our ton dualie are listed at 500lb. Lol. So if your a by the book type, then the hitch hauler won't work.

I bought mine for a single use where a trailer wasn't possible and I needed to be able to load/ unload alone. It worked great behind my f150. I hope to never need it again. Lol
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Is your new KLR California compliant? I would hate for you to arrive to find out they won't let you register it there.
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Is your new KLR California compliant? I would hate for you to arrive to find out they won't let you register it there.
good point.
I respect everyones opinion, but really dont agree with the general sentiment on here. The first week a bought a bike and rode in the 1990s i took it on a cross country trip. There is no better learning exoerience that being on the road. All the books and classes training ive done over the years have helped, but nothing is as important than the miles ive ridden.

This is not rocket science. Go slow and dont rush. Thats really the main key. Skip the technical passes. Yolo
I haven't ridden the TAT, so what I have to say is just old guy/Dad advice:
And excellent advice it is. Just because a bike has the capacity for certain terrain doesn't mean the bike/rider combo does. I hate to be a wet blanket, but a new rider who hasn't even mastered the muscle memory and complex coordination necessary to ride safely on the street has no business solo on the TAT - there's far to much likelihood of it becoming a life-changing event, and not in a good way.
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Unfortunately, when my 2 boys were growing up I never had motorcycles. When one of my sons, who is not as coordinated as my other asked me about a motorcycle, I told him to buy a 125cc dirt bike and go ride off-road. I told him after about two years, when he could ride it without falling down most of the time, that's when he would be ready for a street bike. Riding a 300 lbs dirt bike on a track or wooded area is nothing like taking a 435 lbs bike with 6 gallons of fuel and all the gear you would need to run the TAT alone. Is it possible for a novice rider to ride the TAT alone on a KLR? Yes, if he takes it slow, is honest with himself about his rider capability, is honest with himself about it is a bike he doesn't have experience with in the potential conditions he will face, and he doesn't see a beautiful girl out there he tries to impress with his lack of riding skills. At 58, knowing what I know now about riding on and off road, I would be very, very hesitant to try the TAT alone. If there was a very experienced rider with me, who is patient and wilderness first responder qualified, it would make me feel a lot better about the trip. Whatever you choose to do, make sure you have some type of PLB or real time tracking system with you just in case. I've typed a lot of stuff here that is my opinion. My background is a long time rider with thousands of miles on motorcycles, and I have been training missionaries to ride motorcycles and 4x4s in remote areas around the world for many years (20+) now. Please be very careful if you choose to proceed with this TAT alone ride. Best wishes,
John
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The other guys have pretty much covered it, but I'll add this: in addition to off road riding being very different from pavement riding, riding on relatively paved gravel is different from riding single track, is different from riding in dirt (meaning like motocross), is different from riding in sand. The TAT includes all that and more.

Here's a much better idea: Ride your KLR across America, but stick to the pavement. After you get to Cali, or wherever your endpoint is, then do some local rides on some gravel/paved forest service roads. Then work your way up. Do a BDR in your state. Then consider the TAT.
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I repeat my sentiment that tomorrow may never come. How many times in life do we get the time and money to do a bucket list trip?

I keep an active bucket list and am constantly checking things off the list because i go without fear or too much planning. I really belive that tomorrow may never come and today is what matters.

Very few men grab life by the horns and truly give it their all. The reasons are typically time or money or other committments. But its all a famtasy. All we have is today and if you have the chance to do something exceptional, and the tat is exceptional, then grab it and dont look back.

Shoot, i rode all the way down to south america and didnt plan a thing. One thing i learned on the road is that the most traveled people are not the ones with the perfect gear or perfect plan. They are the ones who just go and dont worry about the small stuff.

Ive done the tat and there are certainly technical parts you should avoid, 90% of the miles dont require any longstanding motorcycle experience. Lots of dirt roads and twisty pavement and there are always ways to skip the hard stuff.


I dont want to end up in a rocking chair ine day thinking about all the stuff i didnt do.
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There will always be stuff you didn't do, because time and resources are limited. Instead, when you are in your rocking chair, think about the stuff you checked off the bucket list. Part of the advice here is to live long enough, and healthy enough, to get most of them checked off. Don't become vulture food before your time.
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Very few men grab life by the horns and truly give it their all. The reasons are typically time or money or other committments. But its all a famtasy. All we have is today and if you have the chance to do something exceptional, and the tat is exceptional, then grab it and dont look back.

Shoot, i rode all the way down to south america and didnt plan a thing. One thing i learned on the road is that the most traveled people are not the ones with the perfect gear or perfect plan. They are the ones who just go and dont worry about the small stuff.
Very True!

But I will ask you how many years and miles did you have under your butt before you took that motorcycle ride on?
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A lot is the answer. 20 years of riding and even big adv bike formal training. Amd i needed those miled and training for several parts of the tat. Especially the high mountain passes in colorado and the heavy mud riding in oklahoma. But for 90% of the route miles, I would have and could have done it slowly.

The tat routes are clearly defined with levelnof difficulty and literally 90% of the ride is not technical.
Very True!

But I will ask you how many years and miles did you have under your butt before you took that motorcycle ride on?
Not just miles. Offroad and gravel/fireroad miles. I have several hundred thousand miles on road bikes. Maybe 1k miles on dirt. And I'll tell you that I'm not good enough for any real offroad. Especially on the big top-heavy klr
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As an old aged rider of 85 years and some 600k miles in dirt, mud, and street including racing Motorcross and Enduro, starting in 1954... I too think it ill-advised to suggest the TAT to anyone that doesn't have a good bit of time on a KLR or something similar on dirt, Georgia Red Clay and sand. Note. Rem to deflate your tires down in sand, dirt and or rocks. Gives better grip to tires. Thus the small compressor I carried that plugged into a lighter socket to air back up to street speed on the way back home

I've owned 3 Goldwings, from the first year of 1975 when it was just a raw 4cyl bike with lots of power and terrible shocks up through a 2004 and the lastly to a 2012 that was a super good touring machine. Then my touring went to a used 1999 BMW K1200LT and my eyes were opened to why you spend good money for BMW's. Currently own a 2007 LT with color matched Hannigan Europa Ii trailer. And I've ridden both of those 900+ pound bikes on dirt/clay roads and some sand where you are up on the pegs in 2nd and 3rd gear and keeping the bike up on the sand and NOT down in it. So that's all that.

Now... you can't do better that the KLR650 IMHO Your mileage might vary, and thats perfectly ok. My TAT and TET and One of Four Iron Butts, were both done on a Highly modified KLR-685. Not a typo, 685. Seems that coming back from a week in the wet muck of the National Forrest SW of Tallahassee I seized the engine. I let it cool, 3rd gear, clutch in and 2 big guys pushed me hard as they could and I dumped the clutch. She started and I eased it back home the 90 miles to Valdosta and we boared it out and it came up to 685cc. The suspension was totally replaced, went to a solid handlebar, gell grips, taller windscreen, metal bash plate, engine guards, high grade chain and auto oiler and installed a heavy duty wiring harness to support all the upgraded lights and added night driving lights, GPS, phone plug and air compressor port. Note. The KLR has that big 6,3 gallon tank. In Utah and Col you will love that about the KLR. Also, from personal experience, you will easily find a Kawasaki dealership way before a KTM or BMW. That's a big plus.

Why do I suggest the KLR against a BMW GS or other Expensive ride? See above and, I spent about $6 grand on the new KLR. Spent another $3k on upgrades.

Things to do before doing the TAT. Read everything you can find from one's that rode it. Get your legs in shape. If you have a bicycle, rowing machine, stairmaster etc. Use it or ride it. Get together your tools you are going to carry together. Put your bike on the center stand (yeah get that too, you'll probably change a tube in the rain.) NOW, use only the tools you'll be carrying, remove both tires and change out a tube and get the tire back on and adjusted. Note, carry an extra 19" tube with you. Yes you can stuff that 19" tube in the 17" rear tire, especially if you have a small ZipLoc bag of baby powder. Also from personal exp. Change the oil and the other things as far as maint, on the bike. You're not going to have a took wrench in the TAT.

Purchase the maps and GPS Routes from the pharmacist guy that laid this great ride out. Right now can't remember it with a touch of the brain farts. The Maps and Turn by Turn Roll Chart is almost a necessary in my minds eye. I installed a TrailTech Vapor including the necessary water pump piece that let the Vapor monitor the temp. The Vapor also ran a very accurate Odometer that will read in hundreds of a mile. Over kill you say. Well there are several places where you come out of the woods and run 100 feet and back into the woods and a trail is almost invisible.

Go to Tractor Supply or the likes and get a water proof PVC instruction manual/ document holder. About 11" long with screw off top. You can get All your tools that are necessary to fit into it. Using large enough clamps, clamp it to the frame on left side just in front of your Canvas saddle bags. Canvas saddle bags, WTF on my new TAT bike. YEAH SOFT UGLY BAGS. Square metal bags you say. Lots of $$ and when you go down the brackets bend and the sharp metal corners make a Hell of a place on the back of your leg, and hit you right above your boot tops. Leaves a Mark.. You will also go down in sand someplace where it's really hard to get the heavy beast up. Cloth bags Un-strap easily incl the top bag and with that and your large yellow dry bag with your inflatable mattress and sleeping bag and changes of clothes and the likes... you've suddenly made the beast 70 lb lighter.

Go with a large friend, one like I had. Kenny had money and when I convinced him this was a ride we needed to do, couple days later he had a new KLR an set his up nice too. We had Senas in the helmets too. Kenny picked my butt up many times.

All of this happened shortly after 1980. My best friend and my family doctor spent the night in a motel in Port Orford, OR on a So. GA to Cal trip. Gone about 30 days. I was on the 1975 GL, heavily modified then for LD touring. We got up to cross the road for breakfast and noted all the decked out AT bikes that had come in over night to the motel. I went down the line talking to them thinking I'd done something... riding a big easy chair on pavement all the way to California. I was embarrassed shortly, but vowed I was gonna have me a KLR650 and do 'The Trail'.

Well, I did, and I didn't. Made it into the neck of Western OK the last trip and it was Hell. It had rained for a couple of weeks and the square designed roads in North OK, go a mile, turn and go two miles and turn were gummy. We were told that petroleum products were mixed into the roads when they were made and too much rain and we slid all over. We found a truck wash in some cross roads and I think I spent almost $15 in Quarters getting that mud out from under my bike.

My buddy had to return to work so we came home. Time passed, I got older and shortly after getting back from a 27 state around the edge of the US, 31 day tour with my Doc friend and 4 others, again a different Cal treck; My sweet wife and a nurse, informed me that the Arteriogram that I pushed back to make the 27 state treck, was way passed due, so shortly I awoke, becoming aware of my worried wife and a different second doctor looking at me with concerned eyes. Good and Bad news: I had sneaked by having the massive killer heart attack by weeks. And two days later they went in and did 4 by-passes on me. Saved my life there. On my 6th week visit with Dr. Gajohnsonn, who was from Iceland, told me I was doing better than most my age and were getting great reports from the therapy girls, I asked him, when could I drive again? His comment was soon as I had quit the heavy pain meds and with Sharon, my wife on board. I related to him I'd been off meds over a week. So he says this coming week. He knew by now I was a motorcyclist- Not a biker!! I have no tatoos and no metal in my outer skin, lots in various bones tho. Sooo My next question to him was, When can I Ride?! Ohhh he went off on a rant about the dangers of motorcycles and he didn't want me on a bike until the new year. It's September then. He had been a Naval Commander and had just chewed me out. I hesitated a bit as he took another sip of his coffee standing there in the door way to his office. I finally said, "Dr Gajohnsonn, I've been a bad boy!" His face took on a bad look. I said, " I rode my Gold Wing down to this appointment. I thought he was gonna' hit me with his coffee cup. What I got then, is something we in the south call, a 'Scientific Cussing!"

But still here, Thank You Lord.
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My advice/suggestion is a little different but folks have accused me of learning things the hard way my entire life. Pack up what you think you'll take on the trip. Set aside a weekend for a practice run with some gravel, secondary highways and some trails. Commit to it regardless of what the weather happens to be. No canceling because High winds, rain, scattered thunderstorms might be in the forecast. You didn't say if you're camping or staying in motel/hotel/ air b&b. Let's assume a combination of all three. You've got a schedule which means you've done the math on how many miles a day you need to travel. Ok, setup camp on Friday night. Pack up in the morning and ride the daily miles you anticipate on the trip. End of the day set up camp and do it again the next day. As you do this think about the aches, pains, hassles, inconveniences, discomfort and scary situations you might be experiencing along the way. Multiply what you experienced over the weekend by 30 times if that's how many days you're planning for the trip. Expectations just collided with reality. If you think it's too much, look for a used trailer, check the tires and bearings and haul your bike out to CA and then begin chasing your passion. Best of luck and remember luck favors the prepared.
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