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An excerpt from another thread. This is good advice on tire changing. T

Heretic, I commend to you this how-to video (in three segments, I think; be patient and they will play in turn):

http://www.mxguy.com/motorcycle-maintenance/the-best-how-to-change-motorcycle-tire-video_05-31-2008/

Not trying to put you down, but . . . as the Bridgestone rep says in the video, if you must struggle this hard, you should examine your technique.

From your description, sounds like you trashed your tire; no responsible shop, in my view, would send you out on such a critical component in such a questionable condition.

The "trick" in spooining the final circumference of a bead over a rim, in my view, is placing the opposite bead deep into the drop center of the rim, providing, geometrically, some "slack" permitting levering of the tire onto the rim.

Tools helping in this process may include C-clamps, or the commercial "Bead Buddy."

I'd suggest you check your rim run-out as Terry 1956 mentions; have the rim trued if necessary, replaced if damaged beyond repair. I'd bet your tire is destined for the land fill.

You may want to engage a reputable shop to mount your new tire. An expensive proposition, perhaps, but less costly than a tire and rim repair/replacement.

I respect your willingness to perform your maintenance yourself; changing a stubborn tire presents a steep learning curve, but you will acquire skills with you always.
 

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Thanks Savage,

I just took another look at the tire and the bead looks pretty bad... not something I'd want to risk my life on. So I'm just going to toss it. I'll mount the wheel this afternoon and see how true it appears. Then I'll know if I can try mounting another tire.

I certainly didn't help myself, since the tire was sitting in my shed and the temp was about 40 degrees. I should have warmed it up first.

Lots to learn, and you all are a great source of information.
Thanks again.
Bad outcome this time, but don't lose faith in your ability to change your own tires. It's one of those jobs where just a few simple tricks/techniques make all the difference.

As noted by LoneRider, I use a large C-clamp to squeeze the tire walls together to keep them down in the "dish" of the wheel. I also carry the C-clamp in my tool kit as it doubles as an effective bead breaker.

Watch those videos LoneRider posted and search this forum for any kind of tire-changing thread. You'll learn all kind of nifty tricks. Good luck!
 

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i wonder if you had a little too much air in the tube. i had that problem last time i replaced my rear. however i figured out what was happening fairly quickly. one thing that ive learned working on motorcycles is that if you really have to force something with a lot of power/hammer it, then its not right. stop and take a look around at whats wrong and how to do it diferently. anyway like you said its now in the "learned" section. bet you dont do it again.
 

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If your tire wasn't so cold you would of had it.
 

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Watching the videos you get the imperssion that the bead breaks easily, that's not my experience on my KLR's back tire! I run Kenda 761s so they may cling to the rim more than a harder compound tire.

At home I've tried most everything I could think off. Tire irons do work eventually after numerous trips around the rim (spraying Windex liberally). C-clamps don't work for me. Jumping up and down on it, nope. I've even laid the tire on 2x4s and drove a car over the tire, that usually works but...

What does work at home for me is putting the wheel in a bench vise and clamping the tire down prettty good. Then twist side to side, bead breaks right away. Rotate the wheel and repeat in a couple of spots.

Disclaimer I haven't done this in the field... I'm thinking that the tire under the sidestand technique will work the same as the bench vise but it would require a second person probably to sit on the bike.

Anyway figure out a way to break the bead when your out and about. Don't count on riding on a flat tire to break it loose, didn't happen with my last flat. I rode the last 5 miles home on one (through the desert, not on the roads) and the bead was still intact.
 

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Watching the videos you get the imperssion that the bead breaks easily, that's not my experience on my KLR's back tire!
Indeed. I'm no dirt bike racing expert, but I would imagine those tires get changed a lot. Maybe on the rim for one or two races? A rear KLR tire can be on for months or even years, depending on how much the bike is ridden.
 

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Disclaimer I haven't done this in the field... I'm thinking that the tire under the sidestand technique will work the same as the bench vise but it would require a second person probably to sit on the bike.
1. Try cleaning the bead contact area on your rim. I know some tires are just sticky but the residue they deposite over time makes it worse.
2. Using the kick to break the bead requires a second bike. Think about it, how would you take the tire off and then put it under the kick stand with no rear wheel. :stickpoke:
I have yet to find a method that works better than 2 good spoons. Slowly work them around the tire curve up till you get enough space to insert one spoon curve down all the way into the bead. Then like an ice cream scoop you "peal" the tire down off the bead.
I'll try to remember to do a close up video of the technique as Holycaveman taught it to me.:)
 

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larry31 has some good stuff here on how to remove the rear wheel, building a wheel holder for tire changing, and building a simple static balancing stand.

Good stuff.

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