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'Bout made me cry to see how they abused the poor thing, for the sake of making such a short video.
To some people Japanese bikes have always been just a "disposable toy".

That bike was in quite pristine condition from what I could see.

So sad. :crying: :crying: :crying: :SadSigh:
 

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I know F9 is a beloved channel and that they do some good stuff, but Tom's Second Rule of Behaviour should have been applied. "Don't **** stuff up that you can't un-****." To Paul's point, that was a nice first-year 650. Now it is busted and valueless.

Honestly and candidly, had I been in charge of penises on the day these guys were born I would not have given them one. I am underwhelmed by F9 in this instance.
 

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'Bout made me cry to see how they abused the poor thing, for the sake of making such a short video.
To some people Japanese bikes have always been just a "disposable toy".

That bike was in quite pristine condition from what I could see.

So sad. :crying: :crying: :crying: :SadSigh:
I can see your perspective. I saw it as a tribute to the KLR and its toughness and likelihood to outlast a good many of us.
 

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I have to ask Tom, is that the oil pick-up snorkle which is supposed to be bolted onto the RH engine case trying to fall out thru the gaping hole at minute 14:34?

I don't know what else that cylindrical shiney aluminium piece could be?
 

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Yes, it is attached towards the front of the right-hand case and angles down at a 45° angle. It looks intact.
 

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(CAVEAT: Moderators/Administrators; if your wisdom and diligence leads you to delete this post; please do!)

Somehow, I'm reminded of . . . The Honey Badger! As in, the honey badger is NATURE'S KLR650! :)


A critical comment on the previous youtube video clip in Post # 1 above: Anyone riding an un-Tee modded Generation 1 KLR650 in water over 10" depth, and bouncing off rocks without a proper skid plate, appears to me the architect of his own chaos and potential catastrophe. My opinion only.
 

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I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one thinking this video was "in poor taste."

I wonder if they would use this same methodology to "torture test" riding gear, wearing it themselves "until the point of catastrophic failure" to show us "just how tough it is."

Yeah, just realized I threw that out there on Christmas. Gotta run. Krampus is knocking at my door...........
 

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I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one thinking this video was "in poor taste."

I wonder if they would use this same methodology to "torture test" riding gear, wearing it themselves "until the point of catastrophic failure" to show us "just how tough it is."

Yeah, just realized I threw that out there on Christmas. Gotta run. Krampus is knocking at my door...........
Actually, torture testing, often called durability testing by engineers, is a well accepted way to test vehicles and many forms of equipment. Actually, the military requires it for almost everything it buys, from aircraft to handguns.

https://news.kettering.edu/news/new-vehicle-durability-test-lab

https://www.wideopenspaces.com/crazy-ar-15-torture-test-catches-rifle-fire/

However, the F9 video was done gratuitously as the KLR is not a new design being tested. I know some here see the video as a travesty, but I see it as a tribute to the KLR, the honey badger of motorcycles. I thought that was a very apt comparison and I laugh every time I watch that honey badger video. That is one tough animal.
 

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I can see both sides; there are lots of roached out, primered black KLR's they coulda used...that one looked fairly nice which, I think, is the source of the angst.

On topic; they have mandatory crash testing of new vehicles....not such a big deal for one of 1million F150's but it hurts when they have to crash test a Jaguar XJ220 (for eg.)

Anyhow, Merry Christmas to all of you

Cheers,
Dave
 

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I can see both sides; there are lots of roached out, primered black KLR's they coulda used...that one looked fairly nice which, I think, is the source of the angst.

On topic; they have mandatory crash testing of new vehicles....not such a big deal for one of 1million F150's but it hurts when they have to crash test a Jaguar XJ220 (for eg.)

Anyhow, Merry Christmas to all of you

Cheers,
Dave
I agree. They could have made a better choice of specimen to abuse. Than again, I don’t think they really intended to break the case. I think they intended to abuse it and show how well it came through, but who knows for sure their real motives.
 

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I agree. They could have made a better choice of specimen to abuse. Than again, I don’t think they really intended to break the case. I think they intended to abuse it and show how well it came through, but who knows for sure their real motives.
Least they could've done would be to put a friggin skid plate on it. I mean come on.
 

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Actually, torture testing, often called durability testing by engineers, is a well accepted way to test vehicles and many forms of equipment. Actually, the military requires it for almost everything it buys, from aircraft to handguns.

https://news.kettering.edu/news/new-vehicle-durability-test-lab

https://www.wideopenspaces.com/crazy-ar-15-torture-test-catches-rifle-fire/

However, the F9 video was done gratuitously as the KLR is not a new design being tested. I know some here see the video as a travesty, but I see it as a tribute to the KLR, the honey badger of motorcycles. I thought that was a very apt comparison and I laugh every time I watch that honey badger video. That is one tough animal.
I get the whole durability/testing-to-failure thing and appreciate the intended "spirit" of the video tribute, but I would best describe the recorded proceedings as "Something a bunch of drunk teenagers would do."

Or, as The Dude would more eloquently proclaim: "They weren't wrong. They were just assholes."

Perhaps its a generational thing among some of us who had depression-era parents who pontificated that everything must be well cared for, no matter what it is because if you don't have a use for it anymore, someone else does. The notion of doing something like that to any kind of machine is completely foreign to me.
 

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I get the whole durability/testing-to-failure thing and appreciate the intended "spirit" of the video tribute, but I would best describe the recorded proceedings as "Something a bunch of drunk teenagers would do."

Or, as The Dude would more eloquently proclaim: "They weren't wrong. They were just assholes."

Perhaps its a generational thing among some of us who had depression-era parents who pontificated that everything must be well cared for, no matter what it is because if you don't have a use for it anymore, someone else does. The notion of doing something like that to any kind of machine is completely foreign to me.
Then again, half the people I know abuse their motorcycles, cars, and lawn equipment this bad all the time. No, they don’t go run the quarter mile for hours at a time or jump over rocks until a case cracks, but they don’t check tire pressures, change oil and other fluids when they should, drive short distances in the winter and then shut down, let stale gas sit for months, etc.

The abuse may not be as overt, but it is abuse just the same and completely without purpose. At least a real durability test is done for a purpose. The abuse most people heap on their equipment is due purely to laziness. Some will say, “no” it is simply ignorance, but when you have an owner’s manual that you don’t bother to read, that is laziness in my book.
 

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Agree with 'most everything said on this thread!

True, the Defense Department conducts DEVELOPMENTAL (in design and production) and OPERATIONAL (in the hands of GIs in the field) testing before a system is TYPE CLASSIFIED (finally, design and specifications frozen, and the product authorized for full production and issue to troops). These tests may involve DURABILITY and RELIABILITY tests to the point of system failure.

Consider, however, the TIMING--the tests mentioned are performed in the FORMATIVE PERIOD of the item; NOT, as in the "Zombie Apocalypse" video, at the END of its production life cycle.

Thus, the, "Zombie Apocalypse" video appears to be a form of SACRIFICIAL ENTERTAINMENT (not that there's anything wrong with that, to some), to me, rather than purposeful, legitimate testing.
Otherwise: Let us now perform TORTURE TESTS on World War II SHERMAN TANKS! :)

Thanks for sharing the video, Voyager; interesting and thought provoking; drawing some worthwhile posts from forum inmates!
 

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Then again, half the people I know abuse their motorcycles, cars, and lawn equipment this bad all the time. No, they don’t go run the quarter mile for hours at a time or jump over rocks until a case cracks, but they don’t check tire pressures, change oil and other fluids when they should, drive short distances in the winter and then shut down, let stale gas sit for months, etc.

The abuse may not be as overt, but it is abuse just the same and completely without purpose. At least a real durability test is done for a purpose. The abuse most people heap on their equipment is due purely to laziness. Some will say, “no” it is simply ignorance, but when you have an owner’s manual that you don’t bother to read, that is laziness in my book.
Very true Voyager! How many KLR's have been ruined over the years by simple neglect, ignorance or laziness? And, I agree with your belief that ignorance is nothing more than laziness.
 

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Yes, it is attached towards the front of the right-hand case and angles down at a 45° angle. It looks intact.
Tom, I tend to think that that oil pick-up snorkle is broken off from its 2 bolt mounting and is just laying in the bottom of the sump.
https://www.klrforum.com/363002-post17.html

Even though 'F9' supposedly sealed the massive hole in the crankcase with a beer can and epoxy, I'll suggest that he had better Never let the oil level get below the top mark on the oil sight glass and avoid steep mountains & especially long, balanced wheelies. Or risk cylinder head/cam shaft damage from lack of oil flow/volume. ;)
https://www.klrforum.com/342313-post1.html
 

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It's hard for me to tell if it is attached and angled at 45 or if it is detached and laying across the opening at 45. Hard to imagine that they would have missed that while JBing it up, so if it is broken I think they'd be aware.

Not to say they care much, though.
 

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If it was broken as I suspect it was, they possibly could have removed it, patched it, filled it and rode it. We have no idea if they only rode it 50 feet off camera or 50 miles back to civilization. The intake port & pre-screen appear to be submerged enough to allow oil pressure without the snorkle attached, in the supplied links, at least when standing vertical & stationary.

To the best of my knowledge, none of us know how far a KLR650 cylinder head can truely run with NO Oil flow what so ever. We do know that the rolling element lower bearings seem to go farther.
 
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