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post #1 of 14 Old 11-27-2011, 03:52 PM Thread Starter
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2012 Baja Trip

So I have 4-5 weeks that I can take next year for a trip on the bike. I am starting in Oregon. I looked at some of the Alaska trips and just don't feel the buzz for it. So instead I plan to head south. It has been about 10 years since I have been to Mexico and I have never been to Baja. I plan to ride down the Coast all the way to Cabo and then hopefully find a ferry to Mazatlan. Then back up more of a central US route to home.

Anyone done a similar trip recently ? anything to watch out for or tips ?
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So I have 4-5 weeks that I can take next year for a trip on the bike. I am starting in Oregon. I looked at some of the Alaska trips and just don't feel the buzz for it. So instead I plan to head south. It has been about 10 years since I have been to Mexico and I have never been to Baja. I plan to ride down the Coast all the way to Cabo and then hopefully find a ferry to Mazatlan. Then back up more of a central US route to home.

Anyone done a similar trip recently ? anything to watch out for or tips ?
I realy would think about that trip hard ! Do you know whats happening in Mexico right now.I am a dare devil and have been to mexico many times,but right know you could not pay me to go.Just read about it.
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I must say, I agree with 8650 ^^

Mexico would be about the last place I'd travel to right now. I'm no "tinfoil hat" wearin kinda guy, but I'd go as far south as I can go while packin'.

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Growing up I spent alot of my time in areas which used to get alot of press for bombing, shootings etc.. so I know the press inflate alot of what goes on when they want to.

There will always be chaos in the world the internet/media just brings it closer. I don't believe the world is a worse place today than 30 years ago, yet I hear more about child molesters, murderers, wars, natural disasters and who won dancing with the stars than I can ever remember.

I know from the press that Mexico has problems, I just want to know is it still OK to ride down with US plates and hang out with the local non drug lord types. Anyone on the forum live there or been there recently ?

If not I will ship the bike to Columbia and I can meet it there.
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Growing up I spent alot of my time in areas which used to get alot of press for bombing, shootings etc.. so I know the press inflate alot of what goes on when they want to.

There will always be chaos in the world the internet/media just brings it closer. I don't believe the world is a worse place today than 30 years ago, yet I hear more about child molesters, murderers, wars, natural disasters and who won dancing with the stars than I can ever remember.

I know from the press that Mexico has problems, I just want to know is it still OK to ride down with US plates and hang out with the local non drug lord types. Anyone on the forum live there or been there recently ?

If not I will ship the bike to Columbia and I can meet it there.
If even half of the media report is true there will still be 25000 people murdered over the last 4 years that would be enough reason for me,I live in Texas and not even my mexican friends are going back home,that should be an indication alone,anyway check out strikingviking.net about columbia.
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Last year, a good friend from this board, traveled through Baja, ferried across to Mexico's mainland, traveled south of Acapulco, then up through Copper Canyon, solo. He kept a journal with pictures of his experience, all positive.

In February I traveled to Mexico & spent two weeks in the Copper Canyon district with 6 others. Also met up with a couple guys that went down a week before us. Everyone had a great time. The food, scenery, people, hospitality were all over the top.

Mexico is a country...not a state or a city. It is full of millions of people that just want to get along, just like most of us. They go about their lives trying to make a living, just like most of us. If you go to Mexico & act like you are better than them, drink too much Tequila & become an ass, if you look for trouble you're probably going to find it. Use common sense just as you would here in the US.

I'll be going back in the Spring.

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Last year, a good friend from this board, traveled through Baja, ferried across to Mexico's mainland, traveled south of Acapulco, then up through Copper Canyon, solo. He kept a journal with pictures of his experience, all positive.

In February I traveled to Mexico & spent two weeks in the Copper Canyon district with 6 others. Also met up with a couple guys that went down a week before us. Everyone had a great time. The food, scenery, people, hospitality were all over the top.

Mexico is a country...not a state or a city. It is full of millions of people that just want to get along, just like most of us. They go about their lives trying to make a living, just like most of us. If you go to Mexico & act like you are better than them, drink too much Tequila & become an ass, if you look for trouble you're probably going to find it. Use common sense just as you would here in the US.

I'll be going back in the Spring.

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I would be the one that Sleddog is talking about in his post.
This is my analogy concerning the fear mongering that is so prevalant in the American media with respect to Mexico.
Though I am not disputing that there are murders in Mexico.
It would be similar to the London Times publishing a travel advisory to not travel to the USA because " last year alone there were in excess of 600 murders in New York City" ( apparently it is fine for Americans to kill other Americans) This may be very true. However it does not reflect the atmosphere of the entire country of USA.
Here is a stat, for 2009 there were 15,241 murders in the USA
Mexico is huge!
The American travel advisory's can be directly attributed to $.
The more people that are 'afraid to travel to Mexico" the more tourist $ will not be spent there. As it is a well know fact that most Americans do not 'travel' abroad.
In all likelyhood any vacation $ will now be spent within the borders of the USA.
During my solo ride which included crossing Baja California 5 times, ferried across the Gulf of California then rode Mex 200 south to Puerto Escondido. Then travelling north through Mexico City onward to the Copper Canyon. Not Once did I ever encounter anything but pleasurable experiences.
This ranged from the local taco stand, to dealing with the local Police, or Federale Police (as I regularly was getting lost and had to ask for directions)
Everyone was sincere, honest, and concerned about dispelling the myth that "Mexico" is dangerous. Yes there are areas not to frequent. Just as there are areas in every major city in the world that any one with a lick of common sense would not venture into.
From my travels I can assure you that when I travel into the United States I am more concened for my physical well being, than when I travelled in Mexico.
Not once was I not treated as being the ambassador to take back to Canada, and the USA my enjoyable experiences.
Even at most every Military check point was I told to enjoy Mexico, and have a great time!
Would I ever go back?
I can't wait to return!!

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Thanks Pearlblue. That sounds more like the information I wanted rather than 2nd hand stories from the media. Growing up I used to go on vacation to an area that none of the local police or army would go into. My grandparents lived there so it was no big deal, just part of life.

I know there may be specific areas to avoid and thats all I need to know from a safety viewpoint. Less tourists should make it nicer as well.

Have you not heard about motorcycles, thoose things are dangerous, Kawasaki, Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki and Duc going up for sale, I heard flower arranging is a safe hobby.

If there are 7 billion people on the planet and each live on average 60 years, then 320,000 people die every day. This planet is too dangerous, I am moving to Mars.
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Here is a link to the Ride Report of our trip to Copper Canyon last year.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...hlight=sleddog
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