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post #21 of 37 Old 11-08-2017, 11:11 PM Thread Starter
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So quick update. I got stupid lucky and a ratings decision from the VA came through just before I was going to do my test runs. I've changed my mind on the kickstarter, hate to say it but that article, while educational, officially scared me off the idea. I'll carry an extra battery without acid added just in case and just figure it out on the winter runs this winter. Because of the VA nonsense I managed to pay for all my winter gear, all the studs and some added modifications to the bike ahead of schedule. I'll even have time to do three separate trial runs to salmon idaho this winter now as a result. Kind of freaky when you order enough studs to stud a car, for your motorcycle, for one trip. I've found a couple battery manufacturers that claim to make a KLR 650 battery with higher cold crank amps and longer cold shelf life.

Can someone point me in the direction of directions for posting pics and I'll through some up of the bike.

For the Canadians here, is it a problem having road-flairs and or a flare gun for if something bad happens? Specifically trying to come up with a plan for if I crash and I'm stuck. I'll be wearing a good amount of gear to stay warm of course, but if it snows bad while I'm under the bike I want to make myself very very visible.

Can a motorcycle have the mirrors removed without creating a headache in Canada?

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post #22 of 37 Old 11-09-2017, 06:51 AM
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Hey, I can answer a few of these questions for you. You need at least 15 posts before you can put up pics, it's an anti spam measure and although a bit of a pain, it works well! I don't think there are any problems with using flares or carrying flares in Canada. Also I believe that you legally have to have at least one rear view mirror on your bike up here, so yeah, if you removed them both I'm pretty sure you would get hassled if you were stopped by the police.

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post #23 of 37 Old 11-09-2017, 10:19 AM
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Minesweeper,
An un-filled/un-charged battery will have Near Zero cold cranking power, especially in the cold. They are a Storage Battery. We get out of them, what we put into them, electrically speaking.

A hard wired 'jump-start' terminal in the black plastic panel ahead of the battery, along side of the LH side of the carb and a Lithium jump-start pack carried inside of your clothing to keep it warm is a better idea imho. And zero chance of acid leakage.

A 'Spot' emergency locator should also be inside your clothing.

Would a Rear View mirror strapped/velcroed onto your LH glove like snowmobilers use pass Canadian/Alaskan laws?
Double Take mirrors, mounted on the bike, are some of the most damage resistant mirrors that I am aware of.
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thanks for the info on the batteries pdwestern. I do have space in my Yukon coveralls to keep a backpack inside with me for anything battery powered so I'll start looking into the lithium battery pack option. Although I imagine that if forgotten in the tent one night outside my sleeping bag it would die. Still a light weight option for starting. I'm also looking into figuring out how to wire in a hookup for being able to connect a secondary power source without having to disassemble anything on the bike. But to be honest I have zero to bupkiss experience with electronic systems. Tire stand showed up tonight so as soon as studs are here I can go get a tire and start.
For locator I'm still looking into options. I found a garmin that has an emergency sat uplink distress option that could serve two functions.
I'm going to figure out how to mount a mirror to the bike without blocking my muffs.
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Not the thread which I have seen. Which I searched for then. But maybe you will get the idea.
http://www.klrforum.com/2008-klr650-...mper-jack.html

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post #26 of 37 Old 12-05-2017, 09:20 PM Thread Starter
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Rode first and second test for the bike over the last few weeks and learned quite a bit. For one I need silk socks for wicking moisture away from my feet during warmer climates. My bike hates starting in cold but can do it down to zero fairly easily after a few cranks. Sliding on ice has a tendency to rip off my panniers as the latch is simple aluminum latch but the slide doesn't hurt to bad as long as nothing crazy happens. Safari gas tanks are not compatible with tusk crash bars what so ever and it takes a long time to figure that out for ones self. My bike will make it up a pretty substantial grade of snow and ice with normal tires if I take the extra weight off the back and the bike "floats" better on ice with less weight when riding with no studs. I nulled out the CA restrictions so no I have to figure out if that messes with mileage at all.
Finally people way zero attention to other people on the road when ice preoccupies their thoughts on driving. So so so many people pulling out in front of me right now here in UT.
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post #27 of 37 Old 12-07-2017, 10:51 AM
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Good read.....and good luck. If you find yourself needing assistance near Kelowna call me.

Other observations;

- listen to Paul, particularly around the Thermobob, carb pre-heating and LiFePo battery back up issues.

- I can't imagine (well, actually I can as I've done it) riding in ice and snow without studs.


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Got the thermobob II installed tonight finally but I'm having a hard time getting an extra thick inner tube here in Utah for some reason. Have one on order with my closest shop but seems nobody has them in stock or its listed as "coming back into stock" a week ago? If anyone has an extra thick inner tube near me it would help get the studded tires on the bike. I'm currently riding a bald tire on the rear in snow and ice for errands and it's been interesting to say the least.

I bought doohickey to install during my next oil change and a sub-frame threw bolt kit that I'm hesitant to install until its shown to be needed. Cold weather gear is almost ironed out except for some small things but I'm comfortably riding now in 20's no problem.
Also decided to try the eagle fork brace. It's low enough that I only have about a cm of clearance between bridge and my studs which worries me a little.

Other then that all's well and safe for now.
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A cm of clearance should be ok on snow and ice, but don't try to ride it thru Any Stickey Mud!

A shop that caters to motocrossers/dirt bikers/dual sporters/adventure riders would probably have the heavy tubes in-stock. KTM & Husqvarna are primarily dirt bikes.

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