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Side stand safety bypass. Why?

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Gee where did you get that idea?
I did it with other past projects

In my Suzuki Samurai I had a 4 lamp set up (Hella 4000 lamps) and when in town I’ take 2 off the rig. When going off road I’d reinstall those 2 additional lamps

I had extra Hella wire harnesses from prior projects so in order to keep the 2 lamps harnesses remaining on the car from getting clogged up with mud and dirt , I used stock Hella connectors I had in my stash of electrical parts as explained before and plugged them into the wire harnesses as if the lamps were connected.

I cut the wires do it would work as a plug when connected to the wire harness terminal.

That would keep the harness terminals sealed and clean from debris

I also checked a couple videos on YouTube which also suggested doing so (the photo I posted above in other responses comes from one of those videos)

Since I will not use the side stand switch ever again, meaning no plan to re connect it, I will cut that terminal off the actual switch.

Then just connect both wires together and plug that end of the connector to the other end on the KLR wire harness.

Can not beat that setup.

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Hi Howard,
Pokey's side stand switch is still there, it's just disconnected. I'd disabled it because it would jam with dirt and cause no-start/operational issues.

Take care!
In order to avoid the switch getting stuffed, best way to do it is by using the stock end

It remains as sealed as OEM, because it is all OEM parts as opposed to leaving the connector opened with a wire contraption in place

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While relatively rare, the indicator light can fail and provide false indication in ether direction. Having started with riding dirt bikes which indicate nothing and have no safety features it became habit to feel if the bike is in neutral, and even then I typically pull the clutch in to start them. Or I let the clutch out slow if its running. I could see the light being useful with a Rekluse, however I would still feel its a false sense of security and do double checks since thats what I've always done and its only more critical with an auto-clutch
I agree 100%

I learnt how to ride bikes in the 70’s

I always make sure the bike is In neutral, rocking it back and forth while seated , make sure.

The neutral light is an added reference but my feel about the clutch, the gear lever and the free movement while rocking the bike is my # 1 procedure.

The neutral lamp is just added feature.

The neutral light is something I can take into account, what I do not need at all is a side stand safety switch

Once I sit on the bike, first thing is to make sure bike is in neutral (when parking it I always leave it on 1st gear), and then always raise the side stand.

The side stands safety switch is useless for me, and as many said before, an opportunity for trouble
 
You may not have understood what I was suggesting but what ever way you want to do it is up to you. All you are trying to do is connect the two wires together. Simple to do. Leaving the stock plug intact as I mentioned gives someone the option of putting a kickstand switch back on if they choose.
I understand

All I am saying is , instead of going this route …

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… I would rather go this route
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Same result, one leave the plug sealed, the other one does not

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Basically all you have to do is join the two wires together however you see fit. Follow the wire up from the switch till you find the connection. Cut the wire BELOW the connection and join the two wires together. The point of doing it below or after the connection is you can always change your mind and put a new switch on and you still have the factory connection to reconnect to. That's the quick and dirty way.
In order to keep the plug sealed properly, and since I plan on never reconnecting that crap again, I was thinking about using the OEM female side of the connector.
Instead of the home made wire connection using two female ends as seen on a small wire piece , I could just connect both ends of the OEM female part of the connector.

In that way I would have a properly closed and sealed connector, using both OEM sides (male and female)

The wires that would follow the end of the OEM female side of the OEM connector over to the side stand switch can be cut shorter, these 2 ends connected to each other, and covered on shrink tubing.
 
Is the neutral light working correctly? With the bike in neutral (light on), the engine should run while it’s on the sidestand.
In my case the neutral light is always working correctly

I would say that is the best safety device my bike could have, without it sometimes we might think, in a haste , that the bike is in neutral when it is actually not, and that light tells me that what my foot and thought might think is right, actually is not really it , fact is if the neutral light is not turning on means the bike is not really engaged in neutral

Only upon keeping my foot on working out the gears lever, I can manage place the gears in neutral on a neutral light !


Will disconnect that crap side stand switch off probably today.

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If the switch is working properly then you should be able to start and let the bike warm up while on the stand. With all the symptoms yours has it is going to leave you stranded in the not so distant future. Best to deal with it now.
Thanks. You are confirming what I suspected. Will do away with it.

Like some other switches is there a way to wire the cables to render it useless ? Or do I need to physically remove the switch ?

Like in my Suzuki Samurai (not a bike) that had a safety switch on the clutch pedal that leaves many stranded , there is a way to connect those cables so that this safety switch is disabled , any wiring instructions ?

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I am thinking about getting rid of it

I am the kind of rider that always raises the stand. That is an automatic thing. I ride bikes since the 70’s when there was no thing as switches for security stuff.

You make sure the bike is in neutral before starting it and, once ready to move out, the side stand goes to rest against the bike

Lately I noticed that upon warming up the bike, bike won’t start with the side stand deployed

I want to warm up my bike while I try on the helmet and gear , so I am forced to hold the bike while raising the side stand … start it … once started, I want to lower the stand to let the KLR rest on it to let it idle, but then it dies

Sometimes it allows idling on the side stand and sometimes it does not

Sometimes it does not allow lowering the side stand once bike is started with it raised up

Sometimes it allows me to lower the stand after having started the bike with the stand raised up

Is it supposed to allow for starting and idling while bike is resting on the side stand ?

Is my side stand switch operating as intended or is it going bad ?

Or is it supposed never to allow the bike to start while the bike rests on the side stand ?

I want to get rid of it , a device that would not allow my bike to idle on the stand is just garbage