[Gunnar88]

Older Italian bikes like Moto Guzzis and some Ducati's ha a spring loaded side stand, so the second the pressure was off it would snap back into place. In the late 1980's I had my 1979 Moto Guzzi 1000 SP 11 parked on the side of a freeway off ramp somewhere in California riding to the GP500 race at Laguna Seca where I had stopped to help a buddy who was having luggage issues and a semi went by particularly fast for the off ramp and the gust of wind it generated was enough to let the spring snap back the side stand and then the bike fell over. This isnt mine but the same as mine down to the powder blue; that ones is probably on the center stand and their brushed it out. The tapered steering head bearing race broke on that bike WHILE I was riding in Jerome AZ.

 

[Loose Chain]

Or is it supposed never to allow the bike to start while the bike rests on the side stand ?

If the switch is working properly then you should be able to start and let the bike warm up while on the stand. With all the symptoms yours has it is going to leave you stranded in the not so distant future. Best to deal with it now.

 

[jaimesix]

If the switch is working properly then you should be able to start and let the bike warm up while on the stand. With all the symptoms yours has it is going to leave you stranded in the not so distant future. Best to deal with it now.

Thanks. You are confirming what I suspected. Will do away with it.

Like some other switches is there a way to wire the cables to render it useless ? Or do I need to physically remove the switch ?

Like in my Suzuki Samurai (not a bike) that had a safety switch on the clutch pedal that leaves many stranded , there is a way to connect those cables so that this safety switch is disabled , any wiring instructions ?

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[Loose Chain]

Thanks. You are confirming what I suspected. Will do away with it.

Like some other switches is there a way to wire the cables to render it useless ? Or do I need to physically remove the switch ?

Like in my Suzuki Samurai (not a bike) that had a safety switch on the clutch pedal that leaves many stranded , there is a way to connect those cables so that this safety switch is disabled , any wiring instructions ?

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Basically all you have to do is join the two wires together however you see fit. Follow the wire up from the switch till you find the connection. Cut the wire BELOW the connection and join the two wires together. The point of doing it below or after the connection is you can always change your mind and put a new switch on and you still have the factory connection to reconnect to. That's the quick and dirty way.

 

[KLR-Mule]

Kawasaki Clutch Switch Bypass - KLR650

Once the clutch switch is removed or broken the bike won't start in gear, unless you plug in this bypass. Used if you are running an aftermarket clutch perch and/or lever which don't usually come with the switch. Simply plug this in to the connector that goes (or used to go) to your clutch...

www.3dcycleparts.com

 

[Loose Chain]

I thought we were talking about the kickstand switch? This would be the one you need if you didn't want to go the cheap route as I mentioned.

 

[PeteK]

Is the neutral light working correctly? With the bike in neutral (light on), the engine should run while it’s on the sidestand.

 

[KLR-Mule]

I thought we were talking about the kickstand switch? This would be the one you need if you didn't want to go the cheap route as I mentioned.
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Ahh yes, attached the wrong link.
Bypass both!

 

[jaimesix]

Is the neutral light working correctly? With the bike in neutral (light on), the engine should run while it’s on the sidestand.

In my case the neutral light is always working correctly

I would say that is the best safety device my bike could have, without it sometimes we might think, in a haste , that the bike is in neutral when it is actually not, and that light tells me that what my foot and thought might think is right, actually is not really it , fact is if the neutral light is not turning on means the bike is not really engaged in neutral

Only upon keeping my foot on working out the gears lever, I can manage place the gears in neutral on a neutral light !


Will disconnect that crap side stand switch off probably today.

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[jaimesix]

Basically all you have to do is join the two wires together however you see fit. Follow the wire up from the switch till you find the connection. Cut the wire BELOW the connection and join the two wires together. The point of doing it below or after the connection is you can always change your mind and put a new switch on and you still have the factory connection to reconnect to. That's the quick and dirty way.

In order to keep the plug sealed properly, and since I plan on never reconnecting that crap again, I was thinking about using the OEM female side of the connector.
Instead of the home made wire connection using two female ends as seen on a small wire piece , I could just connect both ends of the OEM female part of the connector.

In that way I would have a properly closed and sealed connector, using both OEM sides (male and female)

The wires that would follow the end of the OEM female side of the OEM connector over to the side stand switch can be cut shorter, these 2 ends connected to each other, and covered on shrink tubing.

 

[Loose Chain]

In order to keep the plug sealed properly, and since I plan on never reconnecting that crap again, I was thinking about using the OEM female side of the connector.
Instead of the home made wire connection using two female ends as seen on a small wire piece , I could just connect both ends of the OEM female part of the connector.

In that way I would have a properly closed and sealed connector, using both OEM sides (male and female)

The wires that would follow the end of the OEM female side of the OEM connector over to the side stand switch can be cut shorter, these 2 ends connected to each other, and covered on shrink tubing.

You may not have understood what I was suggesting but what ever way you want to do it is up to you. All you are trying to do is connect the two wires together. Simple to do. Leaving the stock plug intact as I mentioned gives someone the option of putting a kickstand switch back on if they choose.

 

[jaimesix]

You may not have understood what I was suggesting but what ever way you want to do it is up to you. All you are trying to do is connect the two wires together. Simple to do. Leaving the stock plug intact as I mentioned gives someone the option of putting a kickstand switch back on if they choose.

I understand

All I am saying is , instead of going this route …

… I would rather go this route

Same result, one leave the plug sealed, the other one does not

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[Loose Chain]

I understand

All I am saying is , instead of going this route …

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… I would rather go this route
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Same result, one leave the plug sealed, the other one does not

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That is the way I was telling you to do it, not the way with the blue connectors. I guess I wasn't clear enough. Oh well. I would never do it that way with the blue connectors. That's what I get for trying to help I guess.

 

[Sparkey]

In my case the neutral light is always working correctly

I would say that is the best safety device my bike could have, without it sometimes we might think, in a haste , that the bike is in neutral when it is actually not, and that light tells me that what my foot and thought might think is right, actually is not really it , fact is if the neutral light is not turning on means the bike is not really engaged in neutral

While relatively rare, the indicator light can fail and provide false indication in ether direction. Having started with riding dirt bikes which indicate nothing and have no safety features it became habit to feel if the bike is in neutral, and even then I typically pull the clutch in to start them. Or I let the clutch out slow if its running. I could see the light being useful with a Rekluse, however I would still feel its a false sense of security and do double checks since thats what I've always done and its only more critical with an auto-clutch

 

[jaimesix]

While relatively rare, the indicator light can fail and provide false indication in ether direction. Having started with riding dirt bikes which indicate nothing and have no safety features it became habit to feel if the bike is in neutral, and even then I typically pull the clutch in to start them. Or I let the clutch out slow if its running. I could see the light being useful with a Rekluse, however I would still feel its a false sense of security and do double checks since thats what I've always done and its only more critical with an auto-clutch

I agree 100%

I learnt how to ride bikes in the 70’s

I always make sure the bike is In neutral, rocking it back and forth while seated , make sure.

The neutral light is an added reference but my feel about the clutch, the gear lever and the free movement while rocking the bike is my # 1 procedure.

The neutral lamp is just added feature.

The neutral light is something I can take into account, what I do not need at all is a side stand safety switch

Once I sit on the bike, first thing is to make sure bike is in neutral (when parking it I always leave it on 1st gear), and then always raise the side stand.

The side stands safety switch is useless for me, and as many said before, an opportunity for trouble

 

[KLR Kool-Aid!]

What I do know though, is I will not be the next guy, pokey is getting a side stand safety switch tonight.

Hi Howard,
Pokey's side stand switch is still there, it's just disconnected. I'd disabled it because it would jam with dirt and cause no-start/operational issues.

Take care!

 

[KLR-Mule]

Hi Howard,
Pokey's side stand switch is still there, it's just disconnected. I'd disabled it because it would jam with dirt and cause no-start/operational issues.

Take care!

Another good example as to why it should be deleted!

 

[jaimesix]

Hi Howard,
Pokey's side stand switch is still there, it's just disconnected. I'd disabled it because it would jam with dirt and cause no-start/operational issues.

Take care!

In order to avoid the switch getting stuffed, best way to do it is by using the stock end

It remains as sealed as OEM, because it is all OEM parts as opposed to leaving the connector opened with a wire contraption in place

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[Loose Chain]

In order to avoid the switch getting stuffed, best way to do it is by using the stock end

It remains as sealed as OEM, because it is all OEM parts as opposed to leaving the connector opened with a wire contraption in place

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Gee where did you get that idea?

 

[jaimesix]

Gee where did you get that idea?

I did it with other past projects

In my Suzuki Samurai I had a 4 lamp set up (Hella 4000 lamps) and when in town I’ take 2 off the rig. When going off road I’d reinstall those 2 additional lamps

I had extra Hella wire harnesses from prior projects so in order to keep the 2 lamps harnesses remaining on the car from getting clogged up with mud and dirt , I used stock Hella connectors I had in my stash of electrical parts as explained before and plugged them into the wire harnesses as if the lamps were connected.

I cut the wires do it would work as a plug when connected to the wire harness terminal.

That would keep the harness terminals sealed and clean from debris

I also checked a couple videos on YouTube which also suggested doing so (the photo I posted above in other responses comes from one of those videos)

Since I will not use the side stand switch ever again, meaning no plan to re connect it, I will cut that terminal off the actual switch.

Then just connect both wires together and plug that end of the connector to the other end on the KLR wire harness.

Can not beat that setup.

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